California synagogue shooting

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    pfff... personal attacks now? You prove your own limitations with that.
     
  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what. Both sides engaged in violence. Trump is absolutely correct.
     
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    Possibly

    I wonder when he first viewed porn?
     
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    one side kills.... and the claim suggests both sides are equally violent, and so the victim of the murder is partially responsible for being killed, when that is out of the question. And no doubt, the dotard would now claim as well that the violence is on both sides putting the blame on Jews for being killed.
     
  5. Reality

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    Seeing a set of titties in an old girlie mag is not going to turn you magically into a rapist.
     
  6. Mac-7

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    First lib porn taught men to view women as sex objects

    Then liberal women get pissed at being viewed as sex objects
     
  7. Reality

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    And the whole "don't worry your pretty little head about it" barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen culture of the 50's 60's had no influence on viewing women as objects, I'm sure.

    No no, it was seeing a set of titties in a playboy that made you view people as objects only ;)

    Now, tell us about your relationship with your mother while we still have time in this therapy session.
     
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    I dont think so

    In those days men were in the habit of marrying the mother of their children

    Sex within marriage was expected and encouraged

    Women, even or especially because, they were “barefoot and pregnant”. were valued and respected partners
     
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    Both fringe groups were violent and one person died.
     
  11. Reality

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    And there were STILL ho's, domestic violence, rape, assault, etc or have you never heard a ****ing country song man?

    My Great Grandmother was a single mother through the depression because her former husband was a drunk of a cop who liked to beat his wife. She took his service pistol and held him at gunpoint when she ended it. Don't give me that "it was different then" bullshit. People are people. They do ****ed up **** to each other. They always have. The 50's was not devoid of rapine or other violence toward women

    FFS one of the main negligence cases in american jurisprudence is about a man in the 30's who, while his wife is out of town for the weekend at her mother's, has a booze and morphine pills party with his mistress. He sends a 10 yr old child for ANOTHER handle of rum and more pills. He explains that they'll party one more time and then she needs to leave because his wife is coming home and time to split ho. She freaks. Takes a bunch of pills and booze. Passes out and becomes unresponsive. He has the boy drag her ass down the stairs to the boiler room to sleep it off. She dies.

    ^ The case is described as a fairly common occurrence of adultery and debauchery by a married man by the judge writing the opinion.

    That was long before play boy my dude.
     
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  12. AFM

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    Anyone who resorts to anecdotes doesn’t have an argument. Why don’t you compare the births out of wedlock stats form the 50’s to the present ??
     
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    You can find all those horror stories today times ten

    The difference is then that behavour was frowned on and condemned

    Today its not so much if at all
     
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    Bro I summarized a case for you that is one of the cornerstones to negligence liability and duty of care. The entire judicial system operates that way. If you don't have a case to analogize, you don't have a legal argument.
    You don't like that? I'm just all broken up about that.

    Births out of wedlock or not does not equal causation of "value my partner and don't treat her as an object".
    Particularly when wives didn't have rights for a goodly portion of the history you're citing making them something just this side of chattels.

    Some people value their partner, do not treat them as an object and are not married. Some people do not value their partner, do treat them as an object, and have been married since the age of 16. Marriage is not a bellweather for that, attempting to use it as such is frankly foolish in the extreme.

    Nor have you linked pornography to causing a) people to not get married and b) people to treat women as objects when they did not before.

    But no, go on claiming it was the playboy not some defect of character that caused Weinstein to engage in rape.
     
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    Bro.... before that case I mention? He wouldn't have been liable for that egregious conduct BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST HIS SLUT NOT HIS WIFE. Before that case he had no duty of care to a random whore he was smashing in adulterous relations fueled by drugs couriered to him from a pharmacy by a 10 year old.
    Do you grasp what that means Professor?
     
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    You used a made up anecdote to claim that the 50’s are the same as today. That’s absurd.
     
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    No, I summarized a court case from the 30's that is a seminal case in american jurisprudence, which is how my profession operates, to set up Mac for the "but its worse now" line he gave so I could reveal that before the case I mention he wouldn't have bore any liability for her at all because she was just his whore not his wife. Additionally, I provided an anecdote about what my Great Grandmother had to deal with from her first husband, who was an abusive alcoholic.

    I did these things, not to point out that things are the same today, but to point out that Mac has a rose colored glasses idea of the time of his childhood and that women have been treated as objects before the advent of porn.
     
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    You failed to get why I posted it.
    You said you hadn't seen a post in 2 days because it was stated somewhere by someone that he became muslim.
    But I showed you there was a story written today. By a christian news site.

    But I'm not sure what you're even getting at with this response. Paints a different picture of what?


    John Earnest, 19, a student at Cal State University San Marcos, appears to have written an online manifesto in which he said he torched the Dar-ul-Arqam mosque in Escondido on March 24.
    https://nypost.com/2019/04/29/accused-synagogue-gunman-claimed-to-have-set-fire-to-mosque/
     
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    None of your generalized conclusions are true.
     
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    So true! Every female teacher in the US sleeps with students! It seems to be a cultural thing in the US education system.
     
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    Couldn't he have financed children's movies and also sexually assaulted women?
     
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    "Acts that gave us all life." Presumably you wouldn't want your kids doing that until a certain age or point in their life.
     
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    DAVID Hogg authoritarian?
     
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    No I dont think I do

    Why dont you ‘’splain it to me?
     

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