Calling all infidels.

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  1. LeftRightLeft

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    taqiyya.- prudence, fear.

    Now it doesn't mean "to cause fear" but to be fearful. It is an exception to the law about lying although it doesn't cover any lie. It allows them to deny being Muslim if their life depends on it.

    Say some crazy was walking through a train shooting every Muslim.
    Taqiyya would permit a woman to remove her head covering and deny she was Muslim.

    That's about it. Of course radicals have changed it to mean many things. The meaning of it in Islam though cannot be changed.

    I'll look at the other things later going to watch the Chaser Australia
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    I sometimes think theres two of you.....does your wife sometime post under your name...
    You say "I deny that we are being silenced"....but then you seek credibility as you tell me you speak out about.....the teachings of associated prophets....you seem to be picking and choosing what parts of islam
    to accept and which part not to accept.....what associated prophets are you referring to...
    Therefore you are being silent about parts of islam and outspoken about other parts...
    Then you discuss the Charlie Hebdo issue...criticising the rule that mo cannot be drawn...but isnt that a form of silence..not being able to draw mo....
    We draw pictures of buddha, jesus...we have nativity scenes at Xmas...but we cant draw mo....
    You say you respect their wishes.....but then you put in a disclaimer....so long as they respect mine...
    They dont respect your wishes.....never have...never will...
     
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    One big problem with all religions is that they are usually full of the customs of the period and location. Take head covering, all women in the region covered their heads in those days even Jewish and Christian woman.

    Islam just codified it.
     
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    Like what wishes are you talking about.

    Why is it you think you are being silenced when you have no other reason to say it other than to p1ss them off or prove some stupid point that you can say it.

    The right to free speech is something that should be cherished not used as a way of inflaming situations. It is a way we can use our voices to change things that are wrong it can also be used to do wrong, it is then not free speech, it is a crime.

    Inciting violence is a crime as it should be , so as hate speak incites violence, it is a crime.

    It's a bit like planning to murder someone, you don't need to carry out the plan, the plan doesn't even have to be feasible. It's still a crime due to intent.
     
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    Wrong again.....
    Why are muslim women murdered because they didnt wear a veil... in March 2002, a fire broke out at an all-girls’ school in Mecca. Rushing to escape the flames, the girls fled the building, not stopping to don head scarves or abayas. They were forced back into the burning building by the Mutaween and the doors were locked for one reason: The Mutaween feared sexual enticement by the girls’ physical contact with civil defense forces. As such, fifteen girls died and more than fifty were injured. In another incident, a Saudi female student died when male paramedics were prohibited from administering life-saving assistance because of concerns about the student being uncovered. .
    Does that apply to christian women...or just muslim women....do some research, mate....
    Pious imam, Mohammad Al-Jibaly.... said, “A girl should start hijab from the age of seven. By the age of ten, it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear Hijab, and if she doesn’t wear Hijab, we hit her”

    I think youre batting about zero and 4 atm.......
     
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    Wow good link it backs up precisely what I said. It tells as the original meaning and then tells us it's been changed to suit other peoples agendas. Most Muslims would not cross a direct command not to lie unless they weren't true Muslims. Even at the threat of death. Is there something that you believe in that you would die for ?
     
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    I think that was a cha cha......
     
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    And you are painting every Muslim with the same brush.

    To me the discussion is ended ,you assist the terrorists to build fear anger and hatred and I will keep working and hoping for peace.
     
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    The last waltz actually.
     
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    Suits me fine....
     
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    Ah yes...the religion of peace....
     
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    A must watch.....
     
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    Breaking news:
    Meerut: Darul Uloom Deoband has said taking selfie is un-islamic for both men and women. And since nail polish leads to the application of a chemical layer on the nail, water is not able to reach where is should and if vazu is incomplete, namaz automatically remains incomplete,” it had stated. “It is mandatory to conduct vazu (washing of hands and feet) before offering namaz. Darul Ifta, the online fatwa department of the renowned seminary, replying to a query by a Pakistani youth, said that since mostly selfies are taken to be posted on social media, it gives rise to ‘behayaee’ (shamelessness).Maulana Asad Kasmi, a Deoband-based cleric, said, “We fully agree with Darul as every fatwa issued by the seminary is in the light of religious scriptures. Selfie is a new craze among youths which is not only bad in the eyes of islam but also contributes to a large number of accidents leading to loss of lives.”This is not the first time that that the seminary has issued such directions......
    I wont say its bordering on ridiculous....because it is ridiculous....
    There aint no fun in islam...just stupidity.....
     
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    Thought for the day....
    Did you know that all non muslims are apostates.....
    According to a hadith...sahih muslim book 033 number 6426..everyone comes into this world as a muslim...
    Therefore, if you believe this hadith...you are an apostate which is punishable by death...
     
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    This is correct, and one of the many excuses Muslims use, to kill non Muslims.
    Sahih Muslim is revered by Sunni Islam.
     
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    Let see human nature does not change it would sadly seems.

    Just a few generations ago was the last time but not the first time that millions of Jews was killed as they was seen as a threat due to their religion faith.

    Now the same type of people who once attacked the Jews are now turning their hate toward the Muslims using the same type of reasoning and excuses and lies for doing so.

    Shame on you people.
     
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    I dont feel ashamed..I feel enlightened that I can expose the infestation of islam...
    But some of us are too frightened to see what is happening...so they just ignore it...
    I compare it to battered wifes syndrome...the abuse goes on for so long it becomes a normal life....
    Western civilisation simply accepts the islamic infestation because they think they cant do anything about it......now sit back and watch the criticism of that statement....and barely a poster will agree with me...
    well, maybe one or two from Europe or Sweden, or the UK...
    BTW millions is plural so you should be saying "were" not "was"
     
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    What the **** does that have to do with a religion which has declared a global holy war against all infidels ffs? I assume you know what 'Global Jihad' means do you?
     
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    Are you a muslim...
     
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    LOL I am an atheist with enough knowledge of history to know that this drive to attack the Muslims is the same nonsense that had happen time after time to others faiths with the Jews being the main target but not the only target.

    Hell when the loving followers of Jesus was cheerfully killing the Jews in Spain it was a Muslim ruler who send a large fleet to allow over a hundred thousands Jews to resettle in the lands he control.

    Going by history the very worst mass killers in the name of their god are the Christians not the Jews or the Muslims or the Hindus and so on.
     
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    So if youre a non muslim, youre an apostate, as according to
    hadith...sahih muslim book 033 number 6426..everyone comes into this world as a muslim...
    Therefore, if you believe this hadith...you are an apostate which is punishable by death...
     

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