Calling Prophet Muhammad a pedophile does not fall within freedom of speech: European court

I do understand wanting to ban a religion, yes I do - however we are better than Qur'an 8:39 as we don't want to fight/kill people until everybody on earth follows our beliefs - we've moved beyond that hatred.

 

I can't say I'm totally against tacking on additional years in jail for a crime (an actual violent crime, not just telling the truth about a religion) that involves pure hatred of the group being attacked. But we have to be careful about making "thought crimes" a crime, too. I love Muslims, so let's love them, and show them a better way.

 

Calling for violence is not protected by the 1st Amendement, I argue (some will disagree with me, however.) "Let's kill all Muslims, kill all Jews!!!" would not be protected speech, I propose. But pointing out that 1.6 billion people "worship" a pedobear should indeed be protected, especially since ample evidence exists in the Islamic texts for that.

 

Teaching people about Islam is often the same thing as defaming Islam.

 

If she said "kill all Muslims!" then I'd certainly condemn her. But if she, say, pointed out that Modern Secular Humanism condemns pedophilia, but Muslims always, always, always DEFEND Mohammad's pedophilia (Aisha was NINE - Mohammad didn't understand right from wrong of course), then I can't condemn her for telling the truth. Can we agree that Mohammad was a pedobear, Nonnie?

 

Why waste paper? aren't you for the preservation of forest?

 

But she was telling the TRUTH about the Islamic texts, and the people that defend pedophilia (Muslim who defend Muhammad's pedophilia.) Just because some people HATE PEDOPHILES is not her fault!! If I say "Hitler killed innocent Jews" that's NOT "hate speech" against Nazis, as such, it's just the truth. It's not her fault that Muslims defend a pedophile, it's the MUSLIM'S fault! You are a Muslim, stop defending his pedophilia. Just admit that Allah should have said "Whoa, Mo, stop porking the kid!"

 

I love the planet - that's one reason why I support gays, because gays are better for the planet (due to their propensity to usually reproduce at a lower rate.)

 

But it's not sinking in. If you take Muhammad's time and Delaware in the 1800's, you could marry a person/child when they hit pubity. As times have changed and minimum ages for marriage becoming law, you no longer can. But you can't trial the past with the present, it will fail.

Imagine you're in Delaware in 1880 and you marry a 11 year old and have sex. At that time, are you a paedo? No, the law allows it.

Imagine you're in Delaware in 1900 and you marry a 11 year old and have sex. At that time, are you a paedo? Yes, the law doesn't allow it.

So the stupid woman is just inciting the Muslims because of hate speech. Can you see this?

 

Unlike the vile communist Chinese, I support the Muslims' right to print their Qur'an. China is sending Muslims to re-education camps - China is disgusting (but not NEARLY as disgusting as the evil-incarnate God/Jesus who set up a sick system whereby even ethical Muslims go to brutal barbaric TORTURE.....compared to communist China God/Jesus is like Hitler on steroids.)

 

I think we can agree that were banging heads on walls. I'm surprised you're finding this subject tricky.

Was Muhammad a paedophile? No. If Muhammad did what he did then but today, is Muhammad a paedophile? Yes.

Muslims are not defending Muhammad's paedophilia, they're just trying to correct ignorance.

 

OK, but if we want to be fair, if calling Mohammad a pedophile (a fact) is "hate speech" (see OP), than so is the Quran.
We can't have double standards, right?

 

So if you want to incite hatred and violence you need to make sure it is the majority that the violence is directed towards.

 

Muhammad is considered the #1 role model for ALL time by Islam! Why don't you understand that!?
Allah has NOT said "Ok, it's 1853, so Mohammad's example of porking* a child is now NOT a good role model anymore....carry on." Nope, pedophilia is STILL, today, and into the infinite future, approved by Muslims/Islam (unless of course they will say he's not the best role model for all time.)

What kind of people think that a pedophile . and rapist, and torturer, and slave owner, and murderer (Asma B. Marwan, etc.), and beater of poor little Aisha (Mohammad struck her, the Islamic texts say in Aisha's own words) is the #1 role model for all time!?

*Sorry, bad choice of words when talking about Islam.

 

Bollocks! On the contrary, today's girls are entering puberty much earlier because of all the plastic, estrogenic food, hormones in the milk, beef, etc. I very much doubt it if Aisha had her cycle at the age of 9 fourteen centuries ago.

 

Right as per usual.
The Qur'an is indeed hate speech: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Antisemitism

 

Porking a NINE year-old is simply immoral.
Muslims won't admit this however.

 

Yes, the teacher would get in trouble if she said "ok, now we are going to read the part that shows that 1.6 BILLION people, 22% of all humanity, supports pedophilia"!

 

I've never claimed that Muhammad isn't a role model. There are many people from history that are role models but hopefully people are brainy enough to comply with current laws. Those who don't and are caught, are trialled and fined/prisoned.

What kind of people think that a pedophile . and rapist, and torturer, and slave owner, and murderer (Asma B. Marwan, etc.), and beater of poor little Aisha (Mohammad struck her, the Islamic texts say in Aisha's own words) is the #1 role model for all time!? Nutters.

I've read many parts of the Bible, I've realised not to stone anyone, it's considered naughty today.

 

Pedophile is a psychiatric diagnosis, not a criminal offense. A pedophile 1400 years ago is still a pedophile, even if they hadn't even yet invented the word.

But what you say at the end is revealing. I assumed the argument was that labeling Mohammad a pedophile incites non muslims to target muslims with violence, but your concern is that it will incite muslims to commit the violence.
That's a bad idea for a law. Doesn't take much to incite Islamic jihadist to violence.

 

Google "thighing".....Mohammad approved of masturbating the male member to ejaculation on the thigh of BABIES. Yet you'll almost never find a Muslim, even when I've asked them point-blank, to condemn this vile/barbaric act. "So then apparently you'd have no ethical problem if I did that exact same thing on the thigh of your little baby sister then?", I'd ask, and they'd blow up at me - clearly a double standard, clearly not as intellectually consistent as Modern Secular Humanists are. Clearly.

Religion is being exposed.

 

Islam does not say "oh, disregard the laws of Allah, and disregard Muhammad's perfect example - instead, follow the current laws of the hell-bound Infidel Western Democracies"!!

 

That's because the writers/heroes of the Bible were insane by today's standards - so of course no sane person (well, in my opinion, that is) would follow said religion TODAY. Sure, 2000 years ago maybe it was "ok" to follow it, but obviously not today.

 

Great post on Islam as always, Dix.
Yes, I'd say the REAL VIOLENCE is raping the child, not pointing out that Islam approves of that act!!!

 

Stop effectively running interference for pedophilia!