Can existing technologies help people to live over 150

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  1. hkisdog

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    Can existing technologies help people to live over 150?
     
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    Theoretically we could diminish the genetic decay of DNA [reducing the effect of the "free radicals"], granting a more lasting process of cellular replacement without errors [errors in replacing cells is the base of the process of aging], but neuronal cells would age anyway ... that's the core of the matter of aging: to grant the quality of the mind functions and so far you can only bet that at 130 you will still be able to be aware of yourself!
     
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    I suspect we have the technology to make a human body survive almost indefinitely. Allowing an individual to live that long is a different question.

    I'm personally not convinced we should be putting so much effort in to length of life over quality of life.
     
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    A few questions about people living to 150;

    What will be their source of income for 85 years after leaving the workplace?

    Do we expect people to work until age 125...not possible unless we increase jobs by 100%?

    What can be the daily routine of very old people...will they be active/productive or lethargic?

    Assuming average life to 150, this would increase the population of Earth by about 100%.

    Can Earth sustain 14 billion people...food, shelter, transportation?

    How can governments be funded with tens of millions more citizens not paying their share of taxes?

    And on and on and on...


    Unfortunately, technology probably cannot solve all the questions I ask above, and perhaps, some of them cannot be resolved...
     
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    Average Life Expectancy in USA is about 78 years old.

    About a million and a half Americans die each year from Heart Diseases, Cancer, Respiratory diseases and Diabetes.
    These statistics are public knowledge, find it in CDC site.

    With these statistics, how can we even think about living to 150? Most Americans don't make it past 85.
     
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    Would anyone here even WANT to live that long?

    No Way.
     
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    In bold above...which is it??
     
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    I wouldn't mind have the physic of my 25 year old self for 150 years. Main reason most wouldn't want to live that long is that your body is breaking down and constant health issues.
     
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    exactly, if I could have the mind and body of a 25 year old, absolutely I would want to live 150 years or longer if posible

    - - - Updated - - -

    both are true statements
     
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    People might be capable of living that long, but how are they going to afford living that long??

    I have read that in Okinawa, the old people live very healthy and productive lives right up until the time they die, so maybe we need to investigate healthier living to ensure that all these old people are not just stuck sitting around bedridden.
     
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    The only way, IMO, humans will ever live longer, is to have medical procedures to treat everything. Humans are getting fatter by the minute, more diabetes, more chronic health problems. Humans abuse tobacco, alcohol, drugs. Humans in the US have horrible nutritional habits...fast food, pizza and sugar soda. Humans in the US on average are adverse to exercise. Additionally, even very healthy people will have problems as we continue to pollute our rivers, oceans and atmosphere, making it's way into drinking supplies, animals and crops, etc. When the medical industry can create remedies for what I mention above, as well as other crap I can't think of at this moment, then perhaps we can live a little longer. In reality, other than those things we cannot control, we have behavioral choices which on average both extend our lives and make us healthier...interesting that few of us make the right choices...
     
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    It's the same with weight loss. People want a magical pill, or are willing to shell out lots of money for a medical procedure that will "solve all their problems". Most people are too lazy to make the day-by-day decisions that would actually lead to a healthier longer life.
     
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    The oldest person lived to 122. I think the 120's is probably the upper limit, at least based on "existing technologies."
     
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    Which pretty much dictates that most people would enjoy living longer but refuse to take personal steps to do so. Is it possible to have a pill to solve every human problem that leads to early death...no! We can replace the organs and joints, etc. in humans but if they don't change their destructive behaviors then what's the point? Besides these remedies to live longer will cost a fortune so who will be paying for it...
     
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    The example of Vilcabamba, Ecuador indicates that yes.... this is possible.

    http://thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139


    My wife is from Quito, Ecuador so I heard a lot of amazing things about this area of the world. The first time that I heard about amazing longevity was actually a documentary done back in the 1970's. This explanation may help you to know how Jewish baby boomers can live extremely healthy lives of well over one century.





    .vilcabamba.org/article.html
     
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    they say a calorie restricted diet that contained all the nutrients you needed could do that..... but that is one tough diet one would have to live with for a lifetime

    quality of life is also important....

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    With any luck we figure out how to be much more efficient, and are willing to implement what we need to, before we go extending the end phases of people's lives.
     
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    IMO...I don't think so. People simply don't like change and in order to live to 150 it will take a significant paradigm shift in people's behavior in addition to all that technology and the medical field can offer. For whatever reason, generally speaking, on average, our personal behaviors do more to terminate our lives than the actual diseases...how can this be changed?
     
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    Several months ago I had an interesting chat with a near death experiencer.

    During her OOBE she was shown one of her lives in the future..........(this actually could be a future that already occurred assuming branching time)..... but anyway..... she stated that life spans for humans by then had greatly increased.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html

     
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    Have no interest in discussing OOBE...too much hokey-pokey....
     
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    Lemme guess, your likely death is many years away?

    I've read the same figure somewhere but that was supposedly the point where we just wear out, given no disease or accident

    Why should we have to stop self-destructive behaviors when we can just replace the organ once it's destroyed. Most "destructive" consequences are just the result of the organ functioning as it should over time anyway. Why do we seem to think that organic machines will function better the more they are used? It's certainly the case with no other machine I know of. Immortality may require nothing more than that we are able to clone human organs, and that is just around the corner according to most physiologists.
     
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    I'm almost 50....so hopefully in a couple decades.
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Wait until you're 60 and beyond, my son. Oh, and don't you feel like you're still twenty so most of the time? (Isn't that why the limp, or the stiff arm? :wink:)

    There's a reason most prefer a quick death, if they must have one at all.
     
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    Actually...my wife is quite a bit older than myself (does not look like it), and when she goes so will I.
     
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    The future will be one of resource based economies. Most work done by robots, which means capitalism will be dead, as we outgrew it. There will not be any money, nor rich, nor poor.

    Population will of course have to be managed, to keep levels down to what the resources can support. I would imagine that people will live longer, perhaps to 150, and be reasonable healthy and active, but we will probably stop trying to live too long, for obvious reasons.

    We will live under a new form of socialism, but without the guys at the top as we have seen in the old forms. Society will make decisions, not rulers. People will spend their time in the arts, literature, sports, all kinds of recreation, and economies will be local, with food being produced for each community on high tech, automated farms. When you need something, a consumer good, food, whatever, you will simply go down to a store of sorts and pick it up, no exchange of money. The kids will be conditioned as they grow up to only take what they need, and not to grab all of the handheld computers, or more of anything that they need. Society will be one of cooperation, and collectivism.

    Gadgets, widgets, will be designed to be updated, not thrown in the trash with a new one replacing it. All goods will be engineered to last almost forever, and updated.

    Too bad I won't live to see it. Or you. But it will happen, as we will be forced it to it by necessity. Conservatism is what you will read about, as a historical political belief, that man no longer had the luxury to believe in. So, it will be a very nice place to live.
     

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