Can I Call HCGW Deniers Idiots?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And this proves AGW is not happening how?

    And this proves AGW is not happening how?

    And this proves AGW is not happening how?

    None of these directly challenge AGW and given the very narrow focus of the research would have to be aggregated into a much much more sophisticated model. Something like the IPCC perhaps?
     
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    ~ That's how politics works - sadly. :bleh:
     
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    You are demonstrating your lack of familiarity with the Svensmark/Shaviv alternative climate hypothesis. The 2017 paper was a breakthrough. The subsequent papers follow up. Shaviv explains the significance of the 2017 paper here.
    Finally! The missing link between exploding stars, clouds and climate on Earth
     
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    Included just because it's a favorite:
    1. Nir J Shaviv, Andreas Prokoph, Ján Veizer,
      "Is the Solar System's Galactic Motion Imprinted in the Phanerozoic Climate?"
      Scientific Reports 4, article 6150, 2014 ( doi:10.1038/srep06150) [nature]
     
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    Willie Soon was the victim of the all time most incompetent smear.

    Greenpeace enlists Justin Gillis & John Schwartz of the NY Times in Journalistic Terrorist Attack on Willie Soon - Miss Target, Hit Smithsonian Instead
    2015 › 02 › 23 › greenpeace-enlists-justin-gillis-john-schwartz-of-the-ny-times-in-journalistic-terrorist-attack-on-willie-soon-miss-target-hit-smithsonian-instead
    the so-called “supporting” documents offered by Greenpeace speak for themselves. Their [non-]journalist ... that the contracts are between the
     
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    You trying to deflect? The truth is that it is impossible to prove that climate change, which has been a continuous process since creation, is caused solely, or even primarily, but human activity. Why don’t you just admit the science is not settled.
     
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    The future if climate alarmists get their way and destroy every major economy in the world with their insane policies is clear. They’ll come back in about 15 years and tell us “Sorry about that, guess we were wrong.”
     
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    Judith Curry has never spoken against AGW, although she has been admirably devoted to data rather than hype. As for the readings, I assume "tarot" was intended.
     
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    Thanks for agreeing that you have no relevant facts or logic to offer, only disingenuous strawman fallacies.
    Thanks for agreeing that you have no relevant facts or logic to offer, only disingenuous strawman fallacies.
    Thanks for agreeing that you have no relevant facts or logic to offer, only disingenuous strawman fallacies.
    Yes, except impartial, honest, and consistent with established empirical fact.
     
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    I notice you carefully didn't suggest throwing anything up against demonstrable empirical facts or actual physical events....
     
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    The trend actually appears to have been cooling since the Holocene Optimum ~5-8Kya, though that is overlaid on a millennium-scale oscillation that has been in its up-phase for ~200y.
     
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    They couldn't answer the Where is the Climate Emergency? thread that contained "demonstrable empirical facts or actual physical events...." in the link.

    LINK
     
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    Meanwhile there is no demonstrated link between CO2 changes and Temperature changes since CO2 according to this unsourced chart CO2 was flat trend for about 800 years while Temperature went up and down in large swings covering centuries.

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    and this from c3headlines.com (LINK)

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    and this one showing the long running COOLING trend,

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    LINK

    This last link has additional charts showing that previous interglacials are WARMER, 3C warmer in the Eemian than now yet here we are today in a world that is around 3C COOLER than it was about 125,00 years ago.
     
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