Can sexuality change over time?

Maybe nature wins, even when it doesn't?

 

I don't know, but it certainly is strange.

 

Such characteristics aren't relevant. Only sex.

So you think there is no difference between a less manly guy and a woman? Would you date a real butch woman (assuming you're a woman and you're straight) is genitalia that important to you? Is that the only difference?

 

Since a very small section of the population is affected, how does the 97+% even know? There seems to be a cross between fully male, fully female, fully attracted to one sex etc. It's not a black or white issue for this small % of the population.

 

You are trying to turn my question around on me, but it's not going to work. Now, why would a "gay" man like a feminine man who acts and perhaps dresses like a woman (or a cartoonish type of woman anyways)?

 

Maybe not that strange. We're blueprinted for heterosexuality, after all.

 

No, lack of evidence is never a good reason.

Culture.

 

The thought of doing something with a woman doesn't gross me out really. I just don't have any desire towards other women. Like, there is no sexual attraction there.

I could totally do another woman for a million dollars though! Lol! Would I hate myself? Nope!

 

Can you explain how 'culture' is a payoff?

 

I couldn't. Not for a million.

Ten million, I'd start to think about it ... but would require a lot of narcotics and/or whisky, a blindfold, and there'd be a no kissing, no touching (as in, I'm not touching that!) rule.

 

Why? If you can't tell me the difference between a butch woman and a man than how would you expect me to explain?

If you don't know the difference I'm afraid this will go over your head.

Because a man yes even one in a dress is still a man and gay men like men.

Do you really think the only difference is attire and personality?

 

Meh, I probably wouldn't enjoy it because I'm not gay, but I could pretend for a million dollars . . . or more!

 

Actually, really really feminine men are barely men. And certainly not male in the sexual sense.

 

I wouldn't pretend. I'd make it clear it was for the money

 

Who said I didn't know the difference? I'm asking why would a gay man like a feminine man but not like women? Does he like femininity or not? I would think that a man who likes other men's butts and penises would not like femininity, yet . . . there are gay men with very feminine "boyfriends." What gives?

 

Well if you're culture shuns something, it would be a payoff for members of that culture to suggest it's just a choice or its something that can be altered. And no payoff to challenge that. You complain about culture in the form of PC.

 

And quit with your crappy tude too. Thanks. If you can't answer the questions like a human being, then forget you!

 

Well you are asking why gay men prefer men.

Because the woman is not a man and he is gay.

Who says it's the femininity he likes? Who says men who are less manly are necessarily feminine? If a man picks out men like this habitually than he likes that in men.

Well they're gay, and men even more feminine men are still men.

I don't get the problem here.

 

But there is no broader community knowledge (of one's own private family dynamics), so how could that be? Further, taking full responsibility (as a parent) is not a burden any sane person runs to. Yet there is very definitely an advantage to thinking it's out of our hands.

In order for 'culture' itself to be a payoff, you kinda need to demonstrate how and why it would be. This is a cultural practice with no pay off for adults. It's entirely about the welfare of children.

 

I answered it. Your question is...absurd. you're asking why gay men like men. They're gay. That's what it means. It doesn't matter if they seem a bit effeminate to you or not they're still men. Women aren't.

 

No, I'm not. I'm asking why some gay men seem to prefer feminine looking, sounding, acting men.

So? If the guy is feminine acting, looking, sounding, then what is the difference? The genitalia, the hairiness, what is it?

Who said there was a problem? I'm just wondering because it doesn't seem to follow any kind of logic.

 

I do, because the payoff is flamingly obvious. It absolves parents of any responsibility, and it allows avoidance of discomforting legislations etc. That's precisely why it's so suspect. When you add in the fact that there is no evidence for 'born this way', it's a no-brainer - as far as I'm concerned.

 

So if a gay man likes a feminine man, why doesn't he like women? Is it the vagina that he has an aversion too? Does he prefer butt holes? What is it? I'm trying to understand here.

 

So sex has nothing to do with biology just expression?

 

I've seen some gay men that are more feminine acting than most women. I would think a gay man would find that unattractive, as the other man is trying to be feminine and is acting more like a woman than a man. So if the personality, the style, the thought process, etc., is more that of a woman than a man, what does the gay man find attractive about this person? His penis? His butt? This is all SO confusing.