Can someone explain how homosexuality is compatible with evolution?

You should write a paper and it get published.

 

No, becuase to be a sound theory it needs a lot of evidence and not just several studies.

 

You were the inept one who made the claim. YOU cannot prove what you've said, and likely will not. It's on YOU, not me to support your sensational assertion.

 

Homosexuality in other animals, including primates, is usually a function of dominance.

A beta male will present and be mounted by the alpha male in a group in order to display his subserviance to the leader of the group.

How this plays out in humans is a mystery to me, but I suspect that same wiring is in our own brains and has something to do with it.

 

Of course, it surely isn't always about that in human beings. Two people of the same sex often can and do express their love for one another.

Many homosexual people (male and female) know how and agree to both give and receive.

Yes. It is complex stuff, that many (not particularly yourself) do tend to over-simplify on a regular basis. Thus, the many ridiculous and/or hateful things said and expressed about homosexual people by many.

 

It isn't, it's an aberration from normal. It may not be PC to say that, but I'll choose the truth over PC any day.

 

Try again.

 

Plenty of things are "not normal", as in what the majority don't do - so what?

Abnormal in no way means "wrong". Why some people have that idea in their heads is beyond me.

 

Awesome point; well made!!

 

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Mel Brooks:"Ummm.. no"

Gen Wilder:"Whose brain did you get?"

Mel Brooks:"Abbie someone..."

Gene Wilder:"Abbie someone.."

Mel Brooks:"Abbie....Normal.."

 

You're talking about two different things.

Abnormal and wrong aren't necessarily synonymous. It is abnormal in a pure biological sense, but what is wrong - in this case - is determined by societal mores. Societal approval and disapproval has varied throughout history and depending on region.

 

I think you're making the case that homosexuality is a defect. It's an abnormality and a detriment to the survival of the species.

Simple fact.

 

Abnormal and wrong are never synonymous actually - some people just tend to think there's a negative connotation to the word.

 

Yet it has not once been observed to threaten a species, despite having been observed in the vast majority of species. It always appears to exist at a negligible level, as is also the case with humans.

 

Homosexuality is an anomaly but not abnormal in nature. Under your logic, because we have virus' and deadly bacteria they also should disprove evolution, yet they mutate constantly many ending in dead ends or minimal hosts. Humans are also the animals in nature to not only allow but encourage sex in and out of "season". Sexuality in all animals is a complex discussion having more than just a procreation application especially in humans and so we shouldn't look at it in that light alone, and the naked truth is we still don't have a complete picture of the process that determines our sexuality.

 

I just can't wrap my head around any type of sexuality being genetic. Just doesn't make any sense to me. A person's preferences are shaped by their experiences through life, which are shaped by a person's perception of reality.

People who say homosexuality is a genetic trait are basically trying to find easy explanations for why a persons becomes attracted to the same gender that is impossible to be argued against when in fact it is the countless variables of a person's life that ultimately decide who a person will become.

Another thing I don't understand is why if homosexuality is a consequence of experience and personal perception, that is a bad thing. I see so many people get so defensive as soon as someone tries to argue against homosexuality being genetic when it changes nothing really. Either way, a person should have the freedom to do whatever the hell they want as long as it isn't detrimental to another person's well-being.

In the end, sexuality really should be a nonissue.

 

Seems that those who argue against homosexuality are ignoring my posts. Perhaps because it offers possible explanations? Those against things generally ignore it. Makes it easy to keep their bigoted opinions from being examined too closely.

 

I agree. This thread is based on oversimplified Darwinism catering to bigotry.
Maybe your post will help some to see outside the box.

 

Depends. If you would be an extraterrestrian scientist - studying for example "Xrkrgnbknmpfl" - and because of this you would like to find out something about the mechanisms of reproduction of the human beings who are calling themselve "homo sapiens sapiens" then you would not need a long time to find out, that the abnormal behavior 'anal-sex' is not a normal function of reproduction. This behavior is not a variation of normal reproduction it has indeed absolutely nothing to do with reproduction. It's abnormal. This behavior is undertandable in case of homosexuals as a kind of alternate landing - a vicarious satisfaction - and it's much much less understandable in case of heterosexuals. Perhasp you would be worried after your studies that the whole mankind could have some very deep psychological problems.

http://youtu.be/yTrKWSe8bzE?t=3m48s

 

Assuming it is genetic:

1. Evolution (contrary to a "creator) is not perfect, just good enough. if evolution was perfect, then we would not have thousands of genetic conditions and great genetic variation. Low percentage of homosexual individuals is simply due to this imperfection of evolution.

2. Bisexuals.

3. Recessive or unexpressed genes homosexual genes can be carried by heterosexuals and so passed on. It is a common knowledge in genetics that completelly weeding out a recessive detrimenal trait from a population is very improbable.

 

Homosexuals men often marry and have children.

 

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You are fighting like an erected tank for death and destruction. So why are you astonished? You are carrying your wrong bloodthirsty way with you.

http://youtu.be/zNNgzoyCukY

 

What about if every sexual behavior always has also a "bisexual" component - but a little in another way than you are thinking about. If I take my partner as serios as I am taking myselve serios then perhaps I have to see and to love also her male components and if she likes to see me the same way then she has to see and to love my female components. In the strong spiritual way ... oh there's a nice story from the ancient greek culture: Once human beings had two heads, four legs and four arms. Then a gigantic storm of the gods arised and teared all human beings in two parts. Since this days the male and female parts of the one human being are searching each other everywhere in the world and if they become reunited then no power of gods or nature or humen societies is able to tear them again in two different parts.

http://youtu.be/QFlKx3YPL5I

Genetics is "traditional" not "modern".

No idea what you like to say with this component. Indeed it's much more easy for the evolution to fullfill the plan how to create a male baby as to create a female baby. The female body is in general much more complex. I heard the nature tries to create a male baby instead to lose a female baby complete. That's maybe the reason why so many male idiots are male idiots and so many wise female human beings are so unbelievable beautiful and worthful.

http://youtu.be/vwjHjLl1g2Y

 

The opportunity for sexual release differs from person to person, be it alone or with a partner it is a need that is very real and physical and includes masturbation. Intimacy and the need for companionship are ingrained in out psyche and is also considered hereditary. Anal sex falls within this category. We are born with the drive to procreate and the physical manifestation of that is sexual drive (being horny), procreation and the "drive" are not mutually inclusive, one can exist without the other, the same as in sex and intimacy. We have these dichotomies throughout our human condition, we focus on sexuality because of prejudice.

 

I would say we are not able to live without sexuality. Sexuality is the motor of life - causing from time to time some 100000 Volts of short circuits in every brain but also unbelievable long periods of stability. On the other hand: Then word "sex" sounds indeed a little dead - as if it would be a kind of sports only - "eros" sounds much better. "Eros" - the god of heavenly love - was the first of all gods of the ancient greeks.

http://youtu.be/ok3eHAloBjg