Can we have a civil, thoughtful discussion on this?

where??? How will you learn if you are afraid to try?

 

I wonder how many times you use this stock response. Be an individual, use diverse vocab!

 

its a stock subject( capitalism v socialism) so don't ask for stock reply. Predict ahead unless you are afraid to get to essence of debate? Take a breath and tell us why you are an anti American statist

 

It isn't actually. Most folk on here aren't socialist. And you neither understand capitalism or socialism.

 

dodging again? afraid? tell us why you are anti American statist?

 

I'm neither anti American or a statist. You seem confused.

 

<yawn> You make a lot of claims about what you have "demonstrated," but never actually demonstrate anything, or even give a quote or link where it is demonstrated. Makes one wonder:



By contrast, I have demonstrated with indisputable facts and irrefutable logic that every substantive claim you have made is objectively false.

 

dodging again? afraid? tell us why you are anti American statist?

 

I disagree with that. While the terms capitalism and socialism dominate many of the threads, the root of all disagreements appear to be based upon the achievements of individuals. That said, individualism vs collectivism would be a better choice of words to identify the differences we constantly argue over.

 

Repeating false accusations isn't going to work.

 

We both know it is the truth.

 

we both know it isn't.

 

Then you are in the wrong "debate forum".

Go find a Message Board to get your rocks off ...

 

uh, what?

 

you are supposed to debate here, not leave goofy messages that other party is wrong when you cant present a reason for them being wrong. Do you understand?

 

I know it is the truth, and I am pretty sure you do, too.

 

But I've shown why he's wrong.

I'll never understand the fevered imaginings of the conservative "brain".

 

but you know that it isn't, as well as myself and everyone else reading. Lol

 

You're a silly liberal, you mean you imagine you showed everyone why they are wrong.

 

conservatives like our Founders had fevered brains because they wanted limited govt while libcommies like Obama Sanders and Warren don't?? See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance?

 

No, you are aware that you have shown nothing, merely claimed.

Same.

 

I know it is, and so does everyone else reading this.

 

It seems I neglected to demolish and humiliate a purveyor of stupid, evil garbage:

False and absurd. The oceans, the earth, the sun, are all physical things that cannot be owned.

Nope. You can own your body all you want, but if others -- privilege owners like landowners -- own your rights to liberty, you are not free.

Or if they own your right to liberty, as landowners do.

No, because you have to pay the owners of your right to liberty -- landowners -- the fruits of your labor just for permission to labor. No permission, no fruits. GET IT??

Or you would, if landowners did not already own your right to liberty.

 

you're a silly conservative, I mean I actually showed you why he was wrong.

 

lol, the founders were radical liberals. And I've already embarrassed you for your claims of Obama being a communist.

no, as that doesn't line up with reality.