Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

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  1. Ndividual

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    Some theories are much better supported than others.


    So when religion found that it could not control people effectively through the belief of punishment after death, man made laws and more immediate means of punishment became more prevalent and effective way of control.


    "How" we came to be here, perhaps, but there is no meaningful answer to "why" we're here.
    That question can only be answered by each individual.

    My Grandmother was a very devout Christian who very rarely went to Church, but spent every free moment reading her Bible, while my Grandfather was an atheist yet it had no effect on their lives together, married over 70 years.
    I have attended Church with friends and family on occasion, and as an atheist married to a Buddhist I once asked a Monk if he believed a God might exist, to which his answer was "All that really matters is how you live your life."
     
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    Muslims should be encouraged to better organize their religion and take the sexual abuse out

    Folks are calling for every Catholic Bishop and the Pope to resign

    Catholicism 2.0 is coming
     
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    I believe I did respond. You did not.
     
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    Nonsense. It absolutely can and does explain why were here.

    To reproduce and ensure the viability of our species by passing on our genes.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    What's so funny about this?

    Go post elsewhere if you have nothing to add. I am not wasting my time on pathetic responses like this.

    You have zero evidence to support anything to the contrary of what I just said.

    You have nothing but a 2000 year old fiction novel.
     
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    Sometimes a picture (emoticon) is worth a thousand words.
    There's zero evidence in support of what you wrote.
    Seems like you're the one using the "2000 year old fiction novel" for support, Genesis 1:28 - 'God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth."'
     
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    Nonsense. The entire purpose of life is life itself. To reproduce. That's why were here.

    The purpose of life is to beget life.

    The hilarious part is that you dont see it.
     
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    So your sticking with the "2000 year old fiction novel" answer?
     
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    Trump is a born again Christian. Usually they are bad people who think that God has forgiven them for all their sins because they are “born again”. Then they start their shenanigans all over again, like Trump.
     
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    Born again to torture others until death, but now able to tax & collect better while torturing with a cross as it's higher than the flag till death.
     
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    Not sure what your definition of a "real Christian" is but, I have seen your posts - you are no follower of the teachings of Jesus.
     
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    Was that relevant to my post that you quoted?
     
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    What is the point in ensuring the viability of our species?
     
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    Problem? Did you not see my post directly above this one? You may not be getting alerts for my replies to you. I've suspected for a while now that the software running this forum has issues with alerts.
     
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    I got this one - let me go back and read my alerts. Sometimes they come up, sometimes they don't and specifically, seems to be anything outside the normal discussion threads here - anything in these subchapters the alerts are lacking.
     
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    What I meant by the "existed" comment is in the historical context; there is evidence Christianity existed back 1,000 years ago and further; but that does not make it true. Moreover, simply existing as a religious belief does not provide evidence its claims are true.



    This was an autocorrect; it meant to say that choice.

    You can't be serious. The very idea that you will be "saved" is in and of itself a wicked ideology to preach. Lutheran and Catholic churches preach this sort of fear mongering, and so do all the born again Christians I know. The church I attended for a while did the same. Sin and you'll burn in hell. Don't accept jesus as savior and you'll... burn in hell.

    That is wicked, evil, authoritarian indoctrination.

    It's working on explaining the origin of life in terms of where it explicitly came from. For example, it may be proven within the next decade that life existed on mars. It may also then correlate to life here through scans of geodes and rocks for microscopic martian bacteria, that life actually originated on Mars and began here via panspermia.

    The origin of life as we know it on this planet was from the seas.


    How? Look around you. Life's purpose is to ensure its own continuity; to spread genes and ensure the existence of a species. That's why we're here; to make more of us.

    It's really simple. It's sad people need to complicate it with supernatural explanations.
     
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    Correct.

    How?

    Are you sure that it was always "BURN" in hell? Or are you deliberately sensationalising it to make it sound worse? Would it be different for you if it was instead "go to hell" and not "burn in hell?

    I'll ask again: If it is "working on doing so" how can it ALREADY explain the origin of life?

    What do you mean?

    Says what?
     
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    Christianity in general works against exercising choice by indoctrinating children, using fear mongering scare tactics, etc.

    What difference does it make? Go to hell offered after burn in hell intones and evokes the same imagery. Christians are using scare tactics and fear mongering. The principal issue with Christians in general is that they take the bible literally. It is a work of metaphors, not a work of observable truths.

    It has an explanation for life on this planet. That's the thing with science - it is malleable and changeable instead of the rigid confines of theistic belief; life may have come from mars. What a fascinating idea. Thus it is working on changing the original proposition; another fascinating idea. More realms to study, to learn, instead of replacing the physical with the metaphysical.

    Life began in the seas. Pretty simple to follow here. Primordial Soup.

    Says life. That's what. The purpose of life is to beget more life. There really is nothing more to it than that.
     
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    Liberal & Christian is that national religion of Islam Christiananality pedophile prophet super ego mentalities where the correlation in Mossad and the CIA did 9/11 to those KKK churchstate lynching enforcement cops protecting & serving thieving old glory & US Constitution arsonists is little more than survival of the fittest fascists to an immaculate drug conception supreme swastika up Uranus court where once is an accident, twice is a coincidence & thrice is only worshipping federal sin instead of a conspiracy.
     
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    I'm really not sure how to reply to this.
     
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    Are you doubting people's ability to think for themselves?

    "Go to hell offered after burn in hell?" No, I mean JUST go to hell, without any mention of "burn." Anyway, not every church puts it as bluntly as you have.

    Well I'm waiting for this "explanation."

    Right, so Primordial Soup is not a mere theory then?

    Sorry, but its just not based on anything.
     
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    Sounds like those Arab terrorists after threatening POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount interrupting another lunch in a restaurant before 9/11; but those Federal Lynching KKK churchstate pedophile prophet cops were of the same national religion.
     

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