Canadian PM: We won't bomb ISIS even if attacked

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Is this short-sighted or not? What happens if ISIS does attack Canada? Will he have a change of heart?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/205975#.Vo1qRvkrKUl

    Canadian PM: We won't bomb ISIS even if attacked

    Justin Trudeau lives up to election promise to stop Canadian jets from bombing ISIS, says military will engage on different track.

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    By Raphael Poch
    First Publish: 1/5/2016, 1:12 PM


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    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is keeping his post-election promises and planning to put an end to the participation of the Canadian Air Force in the allied bombings of ISIS. Instead, he is moving Canadian efforts towards training local forces and towards providing humanitarian aid in Syria and Iraq.

    In an interview with Global News, Trudeau said that he sees no reason to change this new policy towards ISIS and the threat of Islamic terror, even if a terror attack similar to the one in Paris were carried out on Canadian soil.

    Trudeau, who as Prime Minister receives daily briefings on matters of national security, said that “it is no surprise that there are angry extremists and terrorists out there who wish Canadians and Canada harm and countries like it around the world. The key on understanding that, is how we let that affect us.”



    “Obviously one of the most fundamental responsibilities of any government is to keep its citizens safe, and that is something that we are very focused on. But more than that, do we let ourselves be ruled by fear? Do we give in to the fear that there is a terrorist on every plane that may come to Canada? No, we cannot live that way and continue to be the hopeful country that we are. Quite frankly, fear doesn’t make us stronger; it makes us weaker. I feel that the job of being Prime Minister is to demonstrate that there are concerns, But we are working very hard on them, and people shouldn’t go through their lives afraid.”

    Trudeau argued that the greatest threat to ISIS is a tremendously open and diverse society in which Muslims and other minorities are fully integrated into mainstream secular society, and that compatibility between extraordinary diversity and a successfully safe society is Canada’s greatest strength and that that is what needs to be highlighted.

    “We need to ensure that our intelligence community and our police services have the tools necessary to locate threats to Canadians. But anytime you are giving more resources to the intelligence agencies and the police, you need to bring in more oversight on those agencies to make sure that those powers are being properly used and not damaging our free society, and to make sure that they are doing everything they can to me Canadians safe.”

    Trudeau said that “Canada is committed to having a military engagement in the fight against ISIL (ISIS) but in a helpful and substantive way. We have made the decision that we will pull out the CF-18’s and ending the bombings that Canada has been involved in, and we will be doing something else.”

    Trudeau said that Canada’s effort will likely revolve more around training local forces to take up the fight against ISIS and fight to get their homes back.

    “We are in discussions with experts and with our allies to see how best Canada can help. We know that we can’t expect Western forces to come in and prevent ISIL [another term for ISIS] from prospering. We know that whenever Western forces have engaged in this area, it may have helped out in the short term but it created complications decades later that we are now dealing with. The principle we need to deal with is that the best people to take back their homes from these terrorists, are the people who fled these homes, and the local armies and the local militias. We need to give them the tools to actually do the fighting on the ground. That is not just a path for a short term success but for a longer term of success.”
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is quite interesting!

    I call myself a Christian........ so I can certainly understand why P. M. Justin Trudeau feels this way!

    On the other hand.... there are certain statements made by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus - Issa that seem to condone a very different approach to such extreme possible situations?????!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...0733-apology-all-members-military-police.html

    An apology to all members of the military and police!



    I just want to say that I am truly sorry for all those years that I was close to believing in near total pacifism! Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua once asked a question of the Scribes and Pharisees that should have made it obvious to me that an extreme situation can call for drastic action by a Christian or Jew who feels called into a life in the military or police!

    I am almost certain that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was referring to the situation faced by the Machabees when Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jewish communities on the Sabbath.

    One community had refused to fight back....but the Machabees....in my opinion correctly judged that this is a violation of an admonition by King Solomon:

    Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, First Book Of Machabees Chapter 2
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU have to comprende :flagcanada: defense policy is patterned after the remora and its' survival.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remora

    The relationship between a remora and its host is most often taken to be one of (parasitism)
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    Hard Working critter and it's smaller remora

    La Canada. :steamed:
    Y'gotta believe.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g



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    Canadian Defense Minister
    What, Me Worry?

     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nowhere did he say what he would or wouldn't do if ISIS scumbags attacked Canada.

    But feel free to misrepresent is a rather thoughtful and pragmatic attitude and policy.

    those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
     
  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Luv the footnote!

    Its not parastical, its symbiotic. Beneficial to both the big guy and the little guy, even if disproportionately so.

    Beware the evil canucks working quietly and inconspicuously (as usual) to conquer the even eviler american empire. don't tell anyone but Timmy's is a major component of our dastardly strategy. We are winning our maple syrup wars with Vermont, have the best hockey players in the world and have way more trees that you do. Bwaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaha.
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Symbiotic if your're the remora
    Parasitic if your're the shark !


    It takes more energy to swim from here to there with a
    "neighbor who just won't let go".

    The remora :flagcanada: should be "taxed" for their free ride!​


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g

    No !
    [video=youtube;6dG2DSFtYbY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dG2DSFtYbY[/video]


    Yes !
    [video=youtube;QCO6smQrjJ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCO6smQrjJ8[/video]



    POINT: :flagcanada: doesn't have to bomb ISIS,
    Let :flagus: and the American tax payer do it for them.
    Time to tax :flagcanada: for the Paladin services.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't be symbiotic if only one side benefits.

    We've been trying to ditch you guys for decades but you just won't let go.


    Hey didn't you hear, we're Canadians so we are socialists, one step away from becoming commies, so naturally we expect "free rides" for everyone.
    Geez, you'd think you have figgered that out by now.



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g

    No !
    [video=youtube;6dG2DSFtYbY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dG2DSFtYbY[/video]


    Yes !
    [video=youtube;QCO6smQrjJ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCO6smQrjJ8[/video]

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    Preston was way cooler (must be the climate), had a dog sled and had an awesome crime fighting dog, which btw make much better pets than horses.




    Haven't stopped bombing the turds yet.
    Besides your guys toys are way better than ours.
    But if you want to re=imburse us for the costs involved, I doubt we say no, eh?
     
  8. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An interesting analogy indeed!

    If it were not for America........ we Canadians would have lost many more of our soldiers in WWI and WWII!

    In consideration of this fact of history we should also take another look at how we behaved during the time of the American Revolutionary War!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-how-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.html

    We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!
    For starters I would like to thank you Americans for being led and inspired by God better than we Canadians tend to be because it was seriously cool of you to decide to NOT persecute my United Empire Loyalist ancestors!!!!

    Some of my ancestors were Masons from Dixie who came to Country Harbour, Nova Scotia at the time of the American Revolution. I deeply appreciate the fact that so many Americans were closer to God than we Canadians tend to be and somehow your leaders were guided to not persecute us!

     

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