Capitalism vs Collectivism- whats the real debate?

You do make me laugh. I've told you precisely where you went wrong and how to solve it. Now stop being lazy with your googling and present something worth considering.

You might as well present David Icke's site as a source for republicanism (that's proper republicanism mind you, rather than the petty party politics spewed by yanks)

Hayekian information problems are on two fronts: Distributed (telling us why socialist planning cannot hypothetically ape the Walrasian Auctioneer from perfect competition); tacit (telling us the importance of the entrepreneur). Both are solved. As I said, try a reasoned site and get back to me. Its the only logical reaction after all.

 

risk is very big of course, but even then to survive you often have to be the best in the world and 99% of us know we are not that good. Then of course it requires capital which often is in short supply for those who don't save. And of course it takes leadership and management skills, and an interest in bearing all the responsibility knowing the 80% fail in first 5 years.

Great point about no one being responsible if a libsoviet business fails and thus no one really cares if it does.

 

very true Reiver is here to pretend he knows economics but not to show it. Why does he bother?

 

This is interesting. Tell us about Hayekian knowledge problems and how it definitely stops socialism from achieving efficiency. Good luck (its not in the cartoons)!

 

why don't you cut the BS and tell us why you are a standard libcommie?

 

I'm neither a liberal or a communist. You love being wrong don't you? Weird trait!

And please don't dodge: Tell us about Hayekian knowledge problems and how it definitely stops socialism from achieving efficiency.

 

Efficiency come from numerous capitalist experiments all over the world, not from the quess of one libcommie bureaucrat with no skin in the game.

 

why so afraid to tell us what you are and why even after being asked 15 times. How will you learn if you are afraid to try?

 

Try again! Aren't you even aware of how Hayek added to our understanding of knowledge?

 

I'm always open on what I support: market socialism. Your continued lying is not appreciated.

 

utterly senseless given a thousand people added to our understanding of knowledge

 

So you're stating Hayek's contribution is irrelevant? Chortle, chortle, you don't know any economics do you?

 

do you mean you support the free market and socialism?

 

if I said that I'll pay you $10,000. Bet? Do you know what a straw man is?

 

I support market socialism. The clue is in the term: market socialism

There is no such thing as the free market. Its a term used to manipulate right wing idiots.

 

hate to rock your world but socialism is opposed to the free market.

 

"Your website has cooties" is not a well structured logical argument.

You might as well complain about the font I used as well. None of this addresses the claims I've made.

Yeah, that's why socialism is so successful in practice ... nowhere on the planet. Are you planning on supporting this claim with a smidgen of evidence, or am I supposed to simply accept it as valid because of some as of yet unidentified gravitas that sets you apart as an authority on the matter (unlike the icky website I referenced)

 

Your debate habit isn't ineresting. You could try and respond my question with relevance: 'Aren't you even aware of how Hayek added to our understanding of knowledge?'. With your response, carefully show how Hayekian concepts have impacted on the economic profession and supported right wing argument.

 

Wrong on two fronts. First, the free market doesn't exist. Second, socialism can actually move closer to it as it empowers firm creation (and, through worker ownership of large enterprises, minimises predatory behaviour).

 

why not cut the BS and tell is why you are a libcommie market socialist

 

only because there are so many libcommies all over the place!!

 

how can socialism move closer to the free market when it is opposed to the free market?? See what happens when you try to be serious?

 

Tut tut, you think I'll let you dodge? Its a simple question: Carefully show how Hayekian concepts have impacted on the economic profession and supported right wing argument.

 

What do you think an increase in SMEs means? (clue: reduced market concentration).

 

ah I see, so market socialism is really communism after all?
Who would have guessed?