CDC: No Proof That Gun Laws Are Effective

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  1. Kranes56

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    What is the title of your thread again? Now ask yourself, why do you ask to limit it to federal gun laws?
     
  2. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    The cdc report looks like it was examining federal laws. CDC is a federal agency.

    Among the areas under task force review were: bans on specific firearms or ammunition, restrictions on firearm acquisition, waiting periods for firearm acquisition, firearm registration and licensing of firearm owners, “shall issue” concealed weapon carry laws, child access prevention laws, zero tolerance for firearms in schools, and combinations of firearm laws.
     
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    I suggest that you review a bit of the posting history of the persons you've quoted here. You'll find the historic record of registration leading to confiscation, every single time in history.
    As for my reading comprehension, you are simply not qualified to question it. Never mind my aim.
     
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    Then what you're saying is that you knowingly made your thread title disingenuous. Then you said this:
    "According to the Center for Disease Control, there is insufficient evidence that gun laws are effective at reducing gun violence."
    Nor is there any indication that this report was made by the CDC, or had anything to do with federal gun laws.
    "The task force is a nonfederal panel of health-care and community-based prevention experts supported by the CDC."

    Any number of these laws can exist on the state level as well. There is no reason why federal gun laws have to be examined. We can look at gun laws in general.
     
  5. OrlandoChuck

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    So with all this babbling you have not disproved this report.
     
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    Is an apple covered in mold going to be any better in the inside? Your premises are false to begin with, therefore your conclusion will be too.
     
  7. OrlandoChuck

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    It's not my premise. This is a report put out by a federal agency. Maybe you should tell them they are full of bs.
     
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    Registration will in no way make us safer from gun violence at all and would make confiscation easier. As the statistics show. Not one single proposal put forth by progressives will in any way make the us safer. What we do need to do is actually enforce some of the laws we do have in place. We need to teach firearm safety in school. Those are the type of initiatives that we need. Banning semiautomatic rifles is the worst of the worst lies in the gun control narrative as well.
     
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    You do realize that the study also fails to demonstrate that gun laws do not work.
     
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    Gee, my guns are registered and yet I still have them. Ergo, your position disproved!
     
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    Bummer, you live in a place that makes you a criminal for not registering?

     
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    People who received this notice are not as lucky as you.... Nothing disproved.

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    Did you actually read the notice. Has nothing to do with registration. My statement holds, my guns are registered and I still have them.
     
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    You have them for now...
     
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    It is not a federal agency. It was a group supported by one. Your premise is federal gun laws, that's what you asked for. And I did say that your source is outdated.
     
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    You mean you have them today. If, as happens in NY due to their recently passed gun control laws, the government decides you are mentally unstable because you had an issue during a bitter divorce 20 years ago, or went to AA, or were in the military and might have PTSD, or your spouse has an issue, then you will lose your firearms.

    Why would you trust gun banners and a government that so blatantly lies?
     
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    Let me give you some proof. If you do not have a gun, you cannot shoot someone. If you do have a gun, you can shoot someone.
     
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    Then do not own a gun.....

     
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    If you do not have a gun you cannot shoot an armed criminal attacking you, If you have a gun you can shoot and armed criminal attacking you, raping you, beating you to death, attacking you with a knife. Nuff said eh
     
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    1. I have many guns and have not ever shot or threatened to shoot anybody. If you have a car, you can run people over and they will be just as dead.
    2. Criminals don't obey laws anyway. They will still have guns to shoot people and will be braver knowing more people are disarmed.
    3. We would have no defense if the criminals decide to work in groups. My baseball bat against their 3 or 4 baseball bats wouldn't go very well for me most likely.
    4. Wouldn't this quoted post be proof that you are for confiscating all guns? Good luck getting around the 2A.
     
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    I'm not qualified? You could be wrong, but I won't hold that against you since you know nothing about me. I have the advantage in that at least I can read what you are writing.

    So, registration leading to confiscation. So you say. Then produce some evidence for discussion please.
     
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    Or they pass a law banning the particular firearm you own.
     
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    It's a process. You don't just dig finished products out of the ground. Things happen between one point in the process and the end product. Pay close attention to what's being done with the records of those registrations, and watch as the finished product nears completion. Why do I have to explain this to you?
     
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    I'm not the one with the laughable avatar. Perform your own due diligence in learning the history of human civilization. Until and unless you do, you're not qualified to participate in this discussion.
    There is nothing whatsoever for me to "produce", except maybe more ammunition.
     
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    How did they know who to send the notices to?
     

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