Charlie Kirk: Thank White Liberals, Woke Values for Gain in Hispanic Republican Voters

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  1. JonK22

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    Weird, do you know of undocumented people voting in US elections? That's a FELONY, up to 5 years in prison, you should report them?

    Dubya's DOJ did a five year unprecedented investigation of "voter fraud" (you know where those US attorney's because they didn't find fraud?), over 300+ million votes

    Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.

    Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.

    ...Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.

    In Miami, an assistant United States attorney said many cases there involved what were apparently mistakes by immigrants, not fraud.


    In Wisconsin, where prosecutors have lost almost twice as many cases as they won, charges were brought against voters who filled out more than one registration form and felons seemingly unaware that they were barred from voting.

    One ex-convict was so unfamiliar with the rules that he provided his prison-issued identification card, stamped “Offender,” when he registered just before voting.

    A handful of convictions involved people who voted twice. More than 30 were linked to small vote-buying schemes in which candidates generally in sheriff’s or judge’s races paid voters for their support.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html
     
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    I'm for path to citizenship, not granting citizenship.

    I'm good with mandatory Everify for EVERY hire. Weird how the GOP seems to always limit it in their "bills", almost like they aren't serious about wanting to make sure everyone who shouldn't be working is stopped


    Workplace raids? Under BJ Bill and Obama prosecutions of employers went up, under Dubya and Trump guess which way they went?

    August 9, 2019

    As workplace raids multiply, Trump administration charges few companies
    ICE has announced cases against five companies for immigration violations since 2017

    The Trump administration has eagerly pursued arrests of undocumented immigrants over the last two years, culminating in a record-setting raid of Mississippi poultry plants this week. But the administration appears to have been far less aggressive in going after corporations involved in those cases.


    Prosecuting corporations, as opposed to individual workers or managers, for immigration-related offenses was also relatively rare during the Obama administration, but it has slowed further under the Trump administration, according to a database maintained by Duke University and the University of Virginia and data reviewed by The Washington Post.

    There were at least 88 such cases against companies for immigration violations between 2009 and 2016 during the Obama administration and at least five companies prosecuted for immigration violations since Trump took office in 2017,
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...y-trump-administration-charges-few-companies/

    Must be because Trump cared about "the people" right?
     
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    August 10, 2018

    First Lady's Parents Become U.S. Citizens Thanks To 'Chain Migration'
    First lady Melania Trump's Slovenian-born parents were sworn in as U.S. citizens Thursday, benefiting from a path to citizenship known as family-based immigration that the president and others have derisively dubbed "chain migration."
    https://www.npr.org/2018/08/10/6373...become-u-s-citizens-thanks-to-chain-migration
     
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    Glad we can stop pretending it’s only illegal immigration republicans oppose
     
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    Which Republican hasn’t talked border security?
     
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    You can stop pretending that they oppose legal migration anytime you want.

    Opposing one existing ludicrous policy does not mean you're against all of it across the board.

    But you just go ahead and pretend it does, you pretend a lot of things that are not so, are so so why should this be any different?
     
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    So what? Doesn't change my opinion
     
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    Chain migration is also likely how Mayra Flores got in
     
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    So no chain migration, how about asylum seekers? You backing them at least? Another legal method..
     
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    So the guy who does my yard brings a helper, and I’m supposed to run out and demand his papers?
     
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    If they have a valid claim and they go through the proper channels.

    Not claim asylum because you get caught somewhere in Iowa 3 years after you hop The border.
     
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    They have a year if there here illegally
     
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    They shouldn't even have that. If you have a valid asylum claim present yourself at the proper place.

    Not doing so should be automatic disqualification because you arrived in bad faith
     
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    How is following the law bad faith? Because you don’t like it?
     
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    You don't follow the law by entering the country illegally
     
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    if he supports the Orange Stain, that says more about him than he is saying about dems

    https://apnews.com/article/charlie-...r-gen-z-race-5b57b4178fec39f30f3caad77b93c087

    "What followed was an avalanche of aspersions and debunked claims about Floyd, the Black man whose death at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer set off a global reckoning over racial injustice and broad calls for change. But the white conservative agitator had a counter view: Floyd was a “scumbag,” he said, unworthy of the attention."
     
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    It doesn't change the fact that entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor and it is also a felony if you do it twice
     
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    Many foreign nationals, however, enter the country legally every day on valid work or travel visas, and end up overstaying for a variety of reasons.

    But that’s not a violation of federal criminal law – it’s a civil violation that gets handled in immigration court proceedings


    Jan 16, 2019
    For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

    The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegall

    https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6860...a-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings


     
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    I'm aware of that but that doesn't change the fact that it is a criminal offense to cross the border illegally
     
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    Yes 68% of undocumented, broke no laws!
     
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    That still leaves hundreds of thousands if not millions that have.
     
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    Too bad. That is your opinion and not the law. You lose.
     
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    Don’t be ridiculous. She came here as a dependent child with her parents who came here legally. It’s not like she was a 3rd cousin or great niece 3rd removed of someone who came here previously which is the kind of thing being opposed here
     
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    What makes you think her parents weren’t part of the chain? She’s got other family here. Do you think we invite in a lot of farm workers and their kids without them already having family here?
     
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