Chemical Castration for Child Sex Offenders, yea or nay?

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Chemical Castration?

  1. Yes (or even real castration)

    45.5%
  2. Yes but only by chemical means.

    15.9%
  3. No, that is cruel and unusual punishment.

    22.7%
  4. Other (please explain) Thx.

    15.9%
  1. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    Well parents of molested and murdered children would DISAGREE with you.
     
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    I read the article and all the comments in this thread. I'm not against chemical castration per se. My concern is that over my years in law enforcement I learned that it is extremely common for convicted criminals to break their probation or parole. They don't show up for probation appointments, they move and hide themselves, they go back to drugs or alcohol, and they hang with other criminals. They violate the terms of their release in a myriad of different ways.

    Therefore, I think pedophiles should be given life sentences. But if we cannot sentence them to true-life, then chemical castration should be required for pedophiles after their release from prison as a condition of parole. I think they should remain on parole for life. (This would require a change in the law.) And if they violate the terms of their parole - such as not showing up to get their injection - I would have them arrested and brought before a judge who could resentence them to up to life in prison.

    My two cents ... Seth
     
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    What do you think of the idea of child sex robots for pedophiles. The idea being, preventing the molestation from occurring in the first place. The thinking is, if people are just born pedophiles, which may be the case, maybe there is a way to satisfy those drives without any harm occurring to real children. With sex robots quickly gaining sophistication, this is something seriously being explored.
     
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    Most of those 'minor drug crimes' were criminals with violent crimes on their record before they got popped for the 'minor drug crime', and mostly gang bangers, so I don't feel like throwing a Pity Party for for them; gang members are by definition serial killers or their accomplices, and if some minor drug crime gets them off the streets that's frigging great.
     
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    I think this would just encourage them to move on to the real thing. There is NO substitute for a real human person.
     
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    This ^^^
     
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    Besides the fact that I think these sickos get "obsessed" with certain children. A lot of molested kids were molested by someone close to them and someone they trusted.
     
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    Yes- but with some parameters. I think an increased degree of proof would be required, as well as a prerequisite severity of immaturity. The statutory rape laws are not satisfactory- castrating an immature 18 year old for sex with an abnormally mature 15 year old would be extreme. But adults going after pre-pubescents... well theres no justification. Snip em.
     
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    I saw a story on some talk show once about a girl who had a pedophile neighbor who showed an unusual amount of interest in her. She said that it would totally creep her out, but that everyone she told thought he was just a harmless old man. Well, he ended up kidnapping her and repeatedly raped her while she was his captive. He kept her tied up to a bed apparently. The poor girl was SO messed up. She had absolutely NO self esteem, and it was really sad. He told her that her family didn't care about her anymore, that they were glad she was gone because she was burden to them, and he caused this girl some severe psychological trauma. She will NEVER be a normally functioning woman. Very sad. I mean, this guy was very obviously guilty. There was really no question as to his guilt.
     
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    Most states have accommodations in their laws when it is two teens who are close in age, as long as it was consensual.
     
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    Besides the fact that if it is against the law, then don't do it. If the girl is under age, then MOVE ON. There really is no excuse. Sorry.
     
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    If there is even a little question in your mind as to the age of the girl, then DON'T DO IT. Find another girl.
     
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    Except the age of adulthood being 18 is just an average. Just as there are people who mature before 18, theres others that mature after. Not all 18 year olds are 'adults,' regardless of how they are treated in court. Theres no magic number where everyone is suddenly capable of overcoming the recklessness of youth.

    I havnt verified it, but I heard (and it makes sense) that most people actually dont mature by 18, but its more difficult to condition mature adults into effective military structures, thus the discrepency between being able to choose to fight and die for your country and drink a beer.

    If you cant be trusted to hold ur liquor at 18, I dont really think its reasonable to hold an 18 year old to the same standards of controlling their sexual impulses as, say, a 25 or 30 year old. Forcible or 'date' rape of course should always be strictly punished, but consensual statutory 'rape' is lacking quite a bit in the fairness category imo. The statutory rape laws (and the legal adult laws in general) are far to simplified to be 'just.'
     
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    They are simplified because they HAVE to be. The courts would be so overloaded if they had to review each individual case in such a manner, so we come up with the age where the children have at least had a chance to finish their primary schooling before they are considered "adults" even though the vast majority are not really adult like at 18 either.
     
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    I forget who said it- tis better that 10 guilty men go free than one innocent be incarcerated.
    We should not be punishing anyone just because 'its too hard' to judge them justly.
     
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    The only problem is, that it is NOT better. That is a crock of poo. They are children until they are 18. Deal with it.
     
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    Yes. Some of the cases I came across during my career were so extreme and cruel that I don't even want to think about them or write about them. Personally, I'm not against the death penalty in these extreme cases, but I know that just isn't going to happen. But I believe that the protection of our children outweighs the right of a pedophile to be released back into society, and so I favor locking them up for life. I don't know what makes those people like that, whether it's a genetic brain malfunction or if it's environmentally caused in childhood, but I do know that those people should not be free to reoffend over and over.
     
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    Justice is the very foundation of our society. Any sacrifice in the interest of expediency or cost mitigation is a slippery slope of the worst kind.
     
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    I know. The stories are very disturbing and I can't even imagine having to deal with one of these cases in real life. I don't know if I could do it, honestly.

    Agree. Something should be done to contain this problem.

    All of this talk about them being "innocent" is a diversion.
     
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    It is IMPOSSIBLE to account for every single child victim's maturity level, etc., etc., and I don't think that such a test even exists, and let's face it, most people under 18 ARE immature. That is a fact. And I already stated earlier that this is clearly for cases in which there isn't much question as to the perpetrator's guilt. This thread is not about the Innocence Project or about your opinions on whether or not a teeny bopper is "mature."
     
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    If you find yourself questioning the age of your sexual partner, then MOVE ON and find someone your own age.
     
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    Ok cool.

    What about when ur certain and turn out to be wrong anyway? It happens, especially to the young and innexperienced.
     
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    Then you weren't certain. I'm sure they make exceptions when a girl lies about her age or something, but that's not always so clear either. A lot of times a guy will just SAY she lied about her age when he knew darn well how old she was! He just didn't care.
     
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    Ah, the ol' 'you didnt read all 120 responses before commenting so ima get mad' thing...

    K. Ltrz
     
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    I wouldn't take exception with it being to age 20 though instead of 18. Any older than that, and the boy has issues, IMO.
     

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