China and OUR Technology

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  1. ShiiFtyy

    ShiiFtyy Newly Registered

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    So, it may just be me, since it's been on my mind lately, but China seems to be coming a lot when it comes to the terms of the United States' debt, tensions (or so I see in my view; I associate the North Koreans into this specific part), and especially military technology.
    I specifically mention technology, because I know there are hackers from China who are able to get intel on our techs.
    This bothers me greatly. It seems a little simple in my mind, but I honestly think it would work well in different ways.
    First of all - since many computers are created from China (assuming so, dont quote me, haha), wouldn't it be EASIER for hackers to get into classified data?
    Second of all - if we have any sabotaged computers imported in from China, I'm not exactly sure of it, but wouldn't we benefit from it, if the US created the parts instead? (If the latter bullet point is correct).
    Third - Although I understand that the government must have a high security when it comes to technological means of transporting intel, it still isn't enough to keep the Chinese hackers out, yes? Can't we possibly just get the classified computers off the network?http://qz.com/81860

    So what I was thinking, was that, although it would take much longer, therefore being much less efficient, if we instead manually transported intel like how it was done WAY back then (horses, anybody?), apart from that, we can produce the items ourself; possibly help our struggling economy.

    I don't know, I joined the forum because lately politics have definitely come to mind - but being a young one at 14, I might not exactly know what I'm talking about, but I'm looking for others to talk about such problems that could be solved in a "2 birds 1 stone" manner, only because I have a great interest in the subject of politics.
     
  2. oldjar07

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    How do you think the U.S. became a leader in technology if they didn't steal the most from other countries? Every technology we had in the 19th century was basicly stolen from Great Britain, France, or Germany. It doesn't bother me at all that China is the one trying to steal technology, considering for most of the last 2,000 years, everybody else stole from them.
     
  3. Mushroom

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    Oh yes, because the US never had anybody like Franklin, Edison, Morse, Fulton, Hughes, or Kettering, did it?

    :roflol:
     
  4. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    oh plz everybody "borrow" tech from each other. remeber after WWII, those nazi/Jap scientist were not charge for crime against humanity provide they work for US. our rocket technology was base on german V2. even now we still reverse engineer other countries tech, so we know how to counter it. I would be worried if china not attempt hacking/steal our tech, cause thats when they belief their tech is on par/better or another player has better tech.
     
  5. Mushroom

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    And just as interesting, the German rocket technology was based on US rocket technology (specifically a great deal of the V2 was an advancement of the work by Dr. Robert Goddard).

    Dr. Wernher von Braun
     
  6. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    yes the guy publish a paper, and now everything is base on his stuff. if china publish some research paper on new stealth tech, is that mean when we create next gen stealth jet, its base on their tech.

    heck china invent the rocket, thousands years ago, i guess Dr. goddard copy chinese tech, too.

    the pts is nothing like V2 exist before, hence german invent the V2 rocket, and its the base for our rocket design.
     
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    Wow, really? That is your reply? Please come back when you have even a concept of what you are talking about here, will ya?

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    And BTW, everybody steals from everybody.
     
  8. Mrlittlelawyer

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    Probably not on topic, but I would like to say that is awesome! I also joined when I was 14, I am now 16 (don't post much, when i do i try to get something good started). Its influenced me in good ways, though its definitely hard sometimes to sort out all the opinions.

    Now back on topic here, no I do not think Chinas tech will necessarily over take ours. While I am no expert on cyber warfare, I think that currently its more limited than we think. I would also assume that most of our computers are checked for bugs, sabotage, or anything like that.

    Not all computers are created in china though. For example I have RAM created in south korea, while other parts of my computer come from different parts of the globe. Even so, I also agree that producing more things ourselves such as computers, would help our economy.
     
  9. oldjar07

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    Haha, all of those guys stole the inventions they are known for.
     
  10. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    yes thats my reply, people do research and publish paper all the time. china also publish dozens paper on Anti-ship ballistic missile, doesn't mean its working. in US and elsewhere, there are place for reverse engineering, either for imitate it or counter it. so china is not the first who use espionage to gather intel/tech, and they won't be teh last

    also i think ppl are parnoid to think just because china made the computer, doesn't mean they put bugs in every pc.
     
  11. reedak

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    You are excused for your ignorance since you are "a young one at 14". You should read more news to know not only about other countries but more importantly, your country.

    Lately one guy called Snowden from your country has been making headlines around the world. He revealed that the US has launched more than 61,000 hacking operations around the world, with hundreds focused on Hong Kong and mainland China. He disclosed that the US government had been hacking into computers in Hong Kong and China since 2009.

    So don't worry anymore about Chinese hackers. Uncle Sam, the Master Hacker of the World, can keep all non-American hackers at bay. How can a petty thief measure up to a bandit chief?

    First of all, how can any sabotaged computer enter the US under the watchful eyes of Uncle Sam, the Master Spy of the World? Anyway, make exactly sure that you are not using one of the so-called "sabotaged computers imported in from China" now.

    P.S. I am curious to know why "a young one at 14" has such a bad impression of China. Where do you learn that from? From your teachers? From your parents? From disinformation by your government? No wonder such Sinophobia in the US. How can Sino-US relations be improved in such a situation?

    NSA whistleblower: U.S has been hacking into China, Hong Kong
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57...er-u.s-has-been-hacking-into-china-hong-kong/
     
  12. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    The Chinese stole from me. They took my MoJo.
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Maybe we should call Hak Kwai by the name Hack Kwai instead. :)
     
  14. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    Good idea, but how about Hack Kai?

    Kai means chicken in Cantonese.
     
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    reedak Well-Known Member

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    In exchange for WIFEY.
     

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