"China And The Biggest Territory Grab Since World War II", Philippines/Japan say that

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    "China And The Biggest Territory Grab Since World War II", Philippines/Japan/India/Vietnam say that they ready for war with China

    questions:

    Do they really ready for a war with Red Hans?
    How far will go USA in their support of its old allies?


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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonc...he-biggest-territory-grab-since-world-war-ii/

    AFP
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    chinese territorial claims in the south china sea are absurd...
     
  3. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A continuation of this thread? Okay then.

    The problem isn't that two countries are at loggerheads, or even two differing political worldviews, it's two entirely different species.

     
  4. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    but they have the second biggest economy , determination(pushing by China's enormous thirst for natural resources )

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    yes it is,
    [video=youtube;TyuqgqR5ICE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuqgqR5ICE[/video]
     
  5. reedak

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    How can we take such sensational stuff seriously when it was written by someone who was far off the mark in his so-called prediction? The anti-China guy, who "writes marvellously and knows China well", predicted that the CCP would fall by 2011 in his book "The Coming Collapse of China". In the 2012 edition of the same book, he admitted his mistake: "I admit it. My prediction that the Communist Party would fall by 2011 was wrong. Still, I'm off by a year."

    We are approaching 2014, and the CCP is still alive and kicking. In my opinion, what he predicted in his book was more of a "curse" than a "prediction". Here I would like to make a "counter-prediction": "There will come a time when I shall collapse, you will collapse, he will collapse, but China and the CCP will collapse long after many people have collapsed."

    Now, let's take a look at the story in the link. It appears that China is copying the ridiculous Monroe Doctrine of the Americans to enhance its sphere of influence in Asia. This stupid action provides a lot of ammunition to people who play on fears of losing freedom of navigation in the South China Sea.

    Who is the real master of the South China Sea? It's not China or any other country but the typhoons. In recent years, it's not any invading country but the typhoons that wreak havoc and destruction to the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, China, Japan and Korea. Any aircraft or ship that navigates in the South China Sea would have to take into account the full fury of the elements than the ridiculous claim of any country.

    The fury of the typhoons also makes the task of mining the mineral resources (if abundant enough to be commercially viable) in the China Sea very difficult, if not impossible.

    Monroe Doctrine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

    Why Will China Collapse?
    http://www.gordonchang.com/qanda.htm

    The Coming Collapse of China: 2012 Edition
    http://hydrablog.csusm.edu/2012/01/the_coming_collapse_of_china_2.html

    The Coming Collapse of China -- Not!
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2012/09/27/the-coming-collapse-of-china-not/
     
  6. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    With the right price the USA will back off just like Spain sold the Philippines to the USA back in 1899 and China made a trade pact with Nixon, China will open it's economy to the USA in return USA will leave Vietnam and allow Chinese cheap goods into USA :(

    If the USA had not open its market to China, China would have fell apart into civil war Tibet would succeed in separating, Xinjian (Ughur Muslim), Mongolia, Manchuria, South China, Hong Kong will become separate nations.
     
  7. litwin

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    whats about Sinomaps Press´s the South China Sea map ?
     
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    remands my history of AQ ...
     
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    It's just like a chessboard. Perhaps you can make a fortune by inventing a board game with tiny toy ships as chess pieces. If you feel like eternity waiting for a war between China and the US, you can play out the imaginary battle on your chess board.
     
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    Nobody will ever call you a terrorist if you really consider yourself a teacher. A terrorist and a teacher could never co-exist with each other because a teacher gives of his best to mankind but a terrorist does not care a damn for others.
     
  11. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's actually a line from Iron Man III. I am an actual teacher. Not so much a terrorist though. The hours are terrible, and they don't have very good dental plans.

    [video=youtube;cQhEqKAbp6w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQhEqKAbp6w[/video]
     
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    Well said. To any student who hates study and regards schooling as a torture, a teacher is certainly a terrorist.
     
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    Yes, as absurd as the Monroe Doctrine.
     
  14. litwin

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    it has nothing to do with a chess game , if you have seen ej jazeera documentary your man from Hong Kong based china's institute said: "the islands for Japan its just a nationalism, history and not important territory for china its blood" i like your jokes but you want to take over 80 % of SCS and its not a joke
     
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    Who is the man from the Hong Kong-based China's Institute?

    For China, listen to nobody but Xi Jinping.

    For Russia, listen to nobody but Putin.

    For the US, listen to nobody but Obama.

    For your defunct Duchy land, listen to nobody but Your Majesty Algirdas.

    Suppose a Russian general announces that Washington would be struck by a Russian missile within the next hour, do you think Obama would be so foolish and naive to believe in him and nuke Russia at once without seeking confirmation from Putin? If every world leader is so naive and stupid to listen to the words of every Tom, Dick and Harry, the world could end anytime.

    By the way, if Al Jazeera were to carry an important announcement from Al-Qaeda, ignore it at your own peril.
     
  16. litwin

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    this man
    [video=youtube;r7LDH5_ptHQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=r7LDH5_ptHQ[/video]
    communist party?
    oligarchs?
    APIAC, democratic party?
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2012/10/2012101973328317635.html
     
  17. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it could. Let's get back to Ivan-88's assertion that the Chinese and Japanese are two differing species. We could make a chess game specifically for them, kind of like Aliens vs. Predator. Now as to which species are the Aleins and which the Predators, who knows? Ivan-88, comments?

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    Or if you're into Star Trek, Romulans vs. Klingons. There's so much untapped potential for profit here. It'd be like printing money!
     
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    Monroe Doctrine is dead and buried many years ago ...
     
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    i think its more like
    [video=youtube;q8tUvVsXFYM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tUvVsXFYM&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
  20. waltky

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    China poutin' like Korea's fatboy Kim...
    :roll:
    China vows to protect South China Sea sovereignty, Manila upbeat
    Wed Jul 13, 2016 - China vowed to take all necessary measures to protect its sovereignty over the South China Sea and said it had the right to set up an air defense zone, after rejecting an international tribunal's ruling denying its claims to the energy-rich waters.
    See also:

    China sank fishing boat in South China Sea, Vietnam says
    Wed, Jul 13, 2016 - Vietnam has accused the Chinese Coast Guard of sinking a fishing boat near a disputed island chain, authorities said yesterday, ahead of key UN-backed ruling on claims in the flashpoint South China Sea.
     

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