China Continues to Place Muslims in Camps. The Left Continues to Shrug.

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  1. Jeannette

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    They're Turks. Ask Erdogan. By the way according to the Asia Times he just had the go ahead by Trump to annex northeastern Syria. Pity the Kurds and Armenians living there. It should keep the war going on for awhile and make Bolton happy.
     
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    When I said there are no Christian terrorists, it doesn't mean that baptized Christians can't be murderers of killers - since it's an illumination towards Christianity. It doesn't mean that they're Christians.

    Terrorism is a means used by fanatic Muslims to ethnically cleanse an area of non Muslims so it can expand politically since it is not just a faith, it is a political entity as well.

    This is why Israel has so many problems. Any land that a Muslim has lived on is considered 'holy land', and if that land is not under Islamic laws and institutions it is considered an insult to the supremacy of Islam.
     
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    China gave them a chance to assimilate and not pose a threat to the government and their generosity is over Muslims are not just following a religion but a political ideology opposing the stability of China and they must now assimilate or opt to not assimilate either way China will win. They won't tolerate any other religion which poses a threat to stability but Christians won't blow up buses and kill people and Muslims shown they will globally and IN China. There are two cures for Islamism you don't let them in your nation in numbers to pose a risk or you suppress them by force or another superior religion we used in the West had Christianity hold the line for millennia and now thee is a vacuum Islam is using to move in. China is doing what is needed in this case.
     
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    Sum teng wong.
     
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    If that's what I meant I would have said so.
    Not quite the same, given that most of the Middle East leaders are also unelected religious leaders.
    Yes, that's true and it was also Christians who worked to end slavery. It was also many Christian Republicans who fought Christian Democrats to end slavery.
    I certainly don't think all Christians are saints but believe there should also be some perspective, or proportion. There have been sports coaches who molested young athletes so what does that tell us about sports coaches? Not a great deal, only that it can happen with all sorts, including Epstein and his high rolling friends.
     
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    Well I do think the Chinese handled this poorly I would have arranged for families to go to Saudi Arabia during their duty to go to Mecca and paid for some of this if I was China they once they were there pull their right to return and declare them no longer Chinese citizens and confiscate their goods to cover the costs of doing this they could have eliminated millions of them at once at low cost. And these Muslims could move to nations that want them other than China. If the UN had a problem after the fact just say what will they do in order to make them take these people back ... invade and force them at gunpoint?

    It would have been more humane as well but its kind of late now to be nice and so have to continue as they have been to eliminate the threat.

    With the Social Credit system them will have few choices assimilate and behave or be drastically limited in functioning in society at the national level likely as a group for a long time. My guess the young will bend their knee and surrender so they can have some kind of normal life.
     
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    Uh, for the Chinese to alienate the Saudis in this way would be madness.
     
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    there are 56 millions muslim in china, + 40,000 mosque in china, which is about 20 time more mosque than here in US of 2,000. ever wonder why only some the ethnic minority of xinjiang muslim uyghur been held? its because they want establish a East Turkestan, and use terrorist attack to achieve its goals multiple times. also some dont want to learn chinese, which is fine, but then complain they can't find jobs when no company hire them due to their low skills. Also in minority region such as xinjiang, tibet, inner mongolia, shop/street sign have both native language + mandarin, can't say the same here in US state that have alot minorities. furthermore ethnic minority get special treatment to enroll college, which allow them get into college with lower score than Han ethnic group. same with loans, and other benefits.





     
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    I don't and never said they were
     
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    Which reveals that they care nothing at all for LGBT and womens' rights.
     
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    Cool. So you're good with Indonesia's current moves towards outlawing homosexuality etc?
     
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    What is this anyway? Who's on First for bigots?
     
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    Why on earth would you be locking up migrants in concentration camps?
     
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    Hahaha .. yeah but no but (Vicki Pollard reference).

    The very LAST thing these spoiled babies want is a hard scrabble Communist life. They wouldn't know what hit them.
     
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    Rebuild it into what? Spell it out please.

    'Class warfare'? Like workers paying for the upkeep of non-workers? Elites dictating the terms of existence for the working classes?
     
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    Collectivism will never happen, no need to fear that. Remember, the people who think they want it are the LEAST able to take the heavy workload, social pressures, and the conformity which are essential to collectivism. Right wing conservatives would probably do communism better, because they understand and accept conformity and responsibility.
     
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    nope, that effects others rights, religions have a right to believe what they want, not throw people that believe otherwise in jail

    religious freedom for all means all - not just the majority religion
     
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    Why would it alienate the Saudis? Wouldn't they embrace their brothers? And aren't all brown people totally cool with open borders and such?
     
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    Your first question is serious, and your second and third questions are obviously rhetorical, a fact which answers your first question.

    If you need anything else cleared up, let me know.
     
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    Then what did you mean by your remark, "Now they're all terrorists again".
     
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    That seems to be the case. Don't try to be clever.
     
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    But that's just what happens in Islamic countries, right?
     
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    Thats what I used to think. But collectivism now means humans living responsibility-free while robots do all the work and social pressures are alleviated by eliminating diversity of opinion, enforcing conformity with social credit scores according to a popular majority metric. Or so its proponents seem to think when pressed on the issue. Its not people working together anymore, its people living like children as wards of a giant computer-driven nanny state.
     
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    Europians should learn something from the Chinese.
     

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