Christians - America's persecuted majority

You're asking us to posit as true that religion is the basis of those restrictions without actually providing us any evidence to that effect. Your question is therefore easily dismissed until such time as you present direct evidence in support of this hidden claim.

Marriage is not a "religious ceremony". You're thinking of "holy matrimony", which is a religious rite. That rite is not part of the laws governing marriage.

Marriage is contractual in nature. Whether or not that contract is spirituallly binding is between the couple and their church, synygogue, mosque, etc. Government has no involvement in the religious aspect of marriage, only the legal aspects. Without government recognition of the contract, it has no force of law backing it. Without government recognition, the mediation of disputes and regulation of what is or isn't a valid marriage contract falls to whom exactly? The "church"? The "church" has no legal power beyond that vested in priests, ministers, etc. acting as agents of government in asking if the individuals are entering into the contract of their own free will, witnessing that affirmation and completing the marriage license, which is a legal document. Beyond that, it has no legal powers over a couples' marriage.

 

If they didn't paint themselves in school colors, representing the school(public), then the crosses wouldn't get removed.

 

So peoples opinions is persecution?
BTW - I have yet to see a muslim athlete bow down to allah after scoring a TD or making a good play.

 

you do not need to be religious or have a religious marriage to get legally married, but you can if you wan too

in fact, in some states you can be considered married just by living with someone for x amount of days.. common law marriage

 

I think you'd be highly wrong in that assumption. RC believe in eternal hell and they are the largest christian denomination. Why did they have purgatory and limbo? To keep loved ones out of hell.

 

in the media there is some bias, when a Muslim kills someone, his religion will be mentioned, not so much if a Christians does the same (most crimes in this country are committed by Christians), maybe if it's the "preacher's wife" or something they will add that detail

I think what you really mean is the Christian religion tries most to violate separation of church and state, thus are called on it more often, though Muslims do take 2nd place in this

as for Christians being denied their constitutional rights just because they are Christians.. have not seen it.. unless you mean something like a lesbian Christian that wants to get married

 

You're confused. The US Govt is not a Christian organization. Many innocent people were tortured and murdered on both sides.

 

The problem is that christians want special rights, above and beyond the normal rights of other religions. And when people try and push them down to the same place as other religions, they cry persecution.

 

Christianity is in no way persecuted in this country. The religious right thinks it has the right to legislate thier beliefs. They think that they should be able to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her own body. They claim tax deductions simply for being married. They try to deny scientific education in favor of thier creation fairy tales. The United States is certainly not a Christian country. This was made clear by the Constitution, the writings of the Founders, and the Treaty of Tripoli (signed by John Adams afterr being approved by the Senate).

 

Everytime I see this thread I chuckle at the mental image of people being asked their religion as they board a bus and Christians being told that they can only sit in the rear 9/10's of the bus.

 

So? Neither can satanists. Neither can Muslims. Neither can MANY religions practice EVERY SINGLE dogma that has been written out for them. It seems to me that only christians demand this right.

 

I agree, but if thats the case the university shouldnt have used the picture at ALL instead of editing them.

 

I do the same thing when liberals say that gay people are persecuted.

 

I agree, but if thats the case the university shouldnt have used the picture at ALL instead of editing them.

 

Persecuted how? What rights are Christians denied?

 

Thank god- because we all know that Gay's represent the majority of American Christians

 

christians and feminists, always think they're being persecuted when they have big lobbyists in just about all the media outlets

 

ditto, I agree they should not of been edited out, but that is far far from being persecuted

kinda like when Palen said her first Amendment right were being violated when a person criticized her for her words... sorry, the right doesn't understand how free speech works it seems, both sides have the same rights

free speech does not restrict peoples rights to be critical of what one says


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difference is they are being denied actual "real" rights that you and I have, and they should also have, just because of their sex... a persons sex and race should not be used to deny one their rights

 

I would posit that in a democracy such as ours, it's impossible for a majority to be persecuted. Whenever a member of the majority claims persecution, it is usually only that they find that their advantage over the minority is slipping, and that makes then fearful. But loss of an advantage is hardly the same thing as persecution.

 

Nobody's rights were denied in this story. Now if the fans were ejected? Then yes, you'd have a case. But there exists no right to have yourself represented in public, and as the owners of the newsletter in question, the school certainly has discretion over what it decides to publish.

 

The actions taken by the school do not constitute censorhip.

 

Clearly you don't understand that "religious freedom" really means Judeo-Christian religious freedom, emphasis on the Christian.

 

I am not a liberal, and I strongly disagree that Christians are persecuted in America. So, there goes that theory...

 

yep, just look south of the border, and see how good a true Christian nations has it

course liberals probably see the problems of the 99% and republicans probably only see the benifits to the 1%... after all Mexico has the richest person in the world(God's reward for the nation being 98% Christian I guess)


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