Christians are more moral than Yahweh and Jesus. So why worship them?

Christians are more moral than Yahweh and Jesus. So why worship them?

The Bible contains many instances that show Yahweh doing things that no moral human would do. Not even the most right-wing Christian theist.

If you Christians had God’s power, in Noah’s days, you Christians would not use Genocide against man and beast on the earth. Jesus said he came to cure those in need, not kill them, so you would cure those in Noah’s day and would not kill them all. Right?

In Egypt, you Christians would not harden Pharaoh’s heart but would leave it soft and let him let the Jews go. You would not punish the first born for what their parents did. If anything, you would punish the guilty and not the innocent. Right?

To the many other instances where God ordered massacres of babies, you Christians would not, as your better morals would make you care or cure and not kill. Right?

Christians and Muslim thus recognize their better morals. That being the case, why have you Christians and Muslims chosen to follow a God whose morals are inferior to your own?

Religions are supposed to be all about morals, yet Christians seem to ignore that their morals and ethics are better than Yahweh’s by a long shot. Right?

Why do you follow Yahweh, knowing that your morals are above Yahweh’s?

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DL

 

Such crap I don't even know where to start. Like a good anarchist commie, you try to overload the events and system like you did for the Election. Then, you come in for the kill. Look Jesus Christ is Jehovah. The people were under a completely different law and covenant than what Jesus brought when he came from his throne on high. You obviously don't have a clue what the Godhead's plan for Salvation and Exaltation is. God is interested in the spiritual growth of his children. If they aren't going to grow and do good, then they will simply damn themselves and all generations after them. So, he had to start over with the flood with only one family surviving, Noah.

So let me point out a few things. In the Old Testament times, Jehovah was not a normal human being. Neither was he when he came town as Jesus either. The Father is a glorified human being and not someone like yourself. He has his laws and commandments for every dispensation of time. He makes the rules about what he will do and not do, not you. You aren't God so stop pretending you are. Jesus was mortal but he was also part God because his spirit (Jehovah) came down and was given a body with a purpose. To give us a new law different from the old law.

The question is, will you live Christ's law today?

 

Who decides what morals are good?

 

Why assume the standard is a "who"? And why start from the assumption that it they don't base their decision on something external to them?

 

You make a lot of claims. Please provide the proof of your God claims.

For you I recommend the following book.
https://www.amazon.com/God-Virus-Re...ld=1&keywords=god+virus&qid=1604987311&sr=8-2

 

You're basically basing your argument on a false premise.

If you could prove that in a separate argument, you'd basically win the overall argument.

Maybe what you meant to say is that God can do things ordinary humans can't and still be moral about it.
That's what this argument should really be about.

 

Not on your life, as I would have to help him with his next genocide.

Now if you were talking the Gnostic Christian Jesus, I would be all in.

But hey, if a fascist genocidal Yahweh and his homophobic and misogynous religion is the best you can come up with as a moral guide, keep following Satan.

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DL

 

You do.

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DL

 

If our standards do not come from a person, where should, or can, they come from?

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DL

 

I especially agree with your last.

I did not mean to say it for this thread and have asked that often.

But whenever I chat with Christians, they always run behind their immoral double moral standards where they praise Yahweh for doing what they would soundly condemn in a person. Like being genocidal or a mass murderer.

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DL

 

This invites the question I have asked so many Christians and so rarely get a direct response:

If you truly believed that God asked you to kill your children, would you do it? If he asked you to fly a plane into a skyscraper, would you do it? Would you do it without question? Would you do it with joy in your heart?

Is there any command you would refuse to do if you believed God told you to do it?

Or do you have a sense of moral right and wrong that independent of obedience to God? The OP is presuming that Christians do. Surely some of them do, hopefully most of them, but I don't think we should skip to that presumption. Authoritarianism is a powerful force, I think some out there do think that might makes right.

 

I don't see why that is what this argument should be about.

The bible doesn't just depict God doing things most of us today would find to be immoral. The bible also depicts God commanding humans to do such things. And humans have done such things, believing they are following such commands, from this and other Gods, real or imaginary.

 

Indeed. You can find them by googling inquisitions and jihads and see what religion pop up.

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DL

 

Human moral standards do not apply to God.

 

But do they apply to you if God tells you to do something in direct violation of them?

If God tells you to kill your innocent child, do you?

 

If human moral standards do not apply to God, then how do you judge God as being "good"?

 

It is not for man to judge God. just as its not for a cockroach to judge man.

 

Saying human moral standards do not apply to God is like saying human moral standards don't apply to a race of aliens from outer space with superior technology.

 

I assume they wouldn't if such aliens ever exist. Personally, I don't believe in intelligent life in the universe aside from Earth.

 

Scriptures do not indicate this anywhere, but if correct, then why do Christians call god good, especially given his vile genocidal ways?

Your moral standard of good does not apply to god.

Fact is, scriptures tell us to judge all things and that would include any gods. Or is your bible wrong?

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DL

 

I have heard of you guys but never met one.

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DL

 

What kind of guys?

 

That limit Yahweh to just one of the billions of planets.

You have your omnipresent god lonely as hell in most of his great domain, with nobody but us to take his hate of mankind on.

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DL

 

No such thing, where do you dig this low level bullshit up anyway?

Gnostics were dualists and worshipped two (or more) gods; Christians were monists and worshipped one God. Gnostics focused on eradication of ignorance; Christian concern was the eradication of sin. The Influences of Gnosticism on the Development and Growth of ..

Further more JC didnt follow Aaron, he was from the order of Melchizedek. Which means what you are peddling is bunk.

Im hardly a biblical scholar but it appears you peeps never even bothered to crack the cover.

 

Then how can you say that God is good? That's a judgment.