Ciaramello is at least involved in the Whistleblower Saga

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ciaramello is at least involved in the whistleblower saga.

    Eric Ciaramello was invited by Biden to meet with Matteo Rienzi in October of
    2016.

    Why in the world would Biden invite Ciaramello to meet with the Italian
    leader? It makes absolutely no sense until you see the connection.


    Bottom Line:

    Ciaramello is now looking for immunity because of the Koch-Glitsch-Italia
    deal.

    The fact that he speaks Russian makes it look like he may have been the mover
    in the US who interfaced with Natalia Cherenkova and Elana Romanova in Italy
    to pass the pipeline equipment along to Putin.

    The pipeline was completed just before the US 2016 election. The timeline
    absolutely matches the meeting.

    The Italian intelligence services were already set up to be blackmailed once the high tech transfer equipment was delivered much earlier. They did nothing to stop it from happening.

    Papadopoulis was targeted not because of Trump, but because of his knowledge
    of the energy industry in the region and especially because of his contacts.

    Barr talked with the Italian intelligence services directly and have Misfud's
    technology.

    Immunity for a few of those involved is what Schiff and the Dems are really trying to accomplish. Not to mention that Obama's fingerprints were all over it as well.

    By the way, didn't Obama and Rienzi have a secret meeting not too long ago? Oh wait, they must have been talking about golf and yoga lessons.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cairamella is probably looking for countries that don't have extradition treaties with the U.S.
     
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    Yup, this impeachment thing is their last ditch, but even it is just a check mate for Trump.

    - House Impeaches

    Now it goes to the Senate for trial.

    In a trial, you have to establish motive. Was Trump trying to gain something? Or was he legitimately looking at corruption?

    Well, first we have to look into, "Was there corruption" to establish motive.

    To do that, requires us to go through the entire Ukraine saga, which is exactly what Durham and Barr are doing.

    This is really a no win situation for Dems, that is why they are panicking so badly.
     
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    And if Barr is unable to charge Biden with corruption and get a conviction, but Biden’s political career is damaged, then Trump asked for a “favor” that only benefited Trump’s political aspirations and in no way benefited either this country or Ukraine.

    Trump should have ordered our own Justice Dept. to open the investigation before asking a foreign government. So Trump needs a provable case against Biden, or we’re left with only a political ploy on Trump’s part.
     
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    You either can't read or didn't read the transcript. Biden is an afterthought. Trump simply asked for Zelensky to cooperate with an ongoing investigation into the 2016 Russia collusion hoax. Trump asked not for himself, but for 'us', meaning the country as a whole. It's really pathetic people can't be honest. Next you'll tell us the Treaty that binds the Ukraine to do exactly as Trump was requesting doesn't matter anymore because Dementia Joe is a candidate for President. It's not Trump's fault that Joe is dirty as hell.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude... Both countries have open investigations proceeding right now.

    In fact, the Ukraine re-opend their investigation on Biden and Burisma before the July call. The Ukraine president didn't feel pressured because it was already happening.

    Too bad nobody told Taylor before he perjured himself.
     
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    From the transcript:
    “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.”
     
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    Yes, speak and work with our AG.....we have a treaty with Ukraine to allow mutual cooperation on criminal probes. Clinton signed it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, this guy is the whistleblower who is really not a whistleblower. His image as whistleblower was concocted by the media and its Deep State handlers.
     
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