City bans calling someone an ‘illegal alien’ out of hate

You know I been waiting and waiting for someone to post how hard working members of our society can be look down upon due to them daring to not follow the letter of our laws concerning entering the US in the first place but there is no problem with having the president of the US and people like him hiring them on the one hand and on the other hand demagoguing them as a risk to our very way of life.

Come on please explain how for the most part hard working family men and women should be view as evil law breakers and who can be cheerfully view as lower then low for breaking our immigration law but the people who draw them to this country and used them and their labor in the first place can then turn around and used the issue of them being here, at least in one case, to become president of the US???

Sadly for myself I am questioning if the average IQ and judgement of our people is high enough to maintain a free nation or if we had run our course and the future is no longer our to command.

 

Both should be punished. Illegals who are discovered should be immediately deported. Businesses that hire them shouldn’t face $250k fine per illegal and mandatory minimum prison sentences for each illegal hired.

 

This is calling somebody being a criminal. It's a false statement that harms the reputation.

 

No it isn’t. It’s protected speech via the US constitution. The NY law is void at inception.

 

Amusing footnote the vic president of human resources of the billion dollar private company I was at the time working for once in a meeting brag that she enter the US by swimming the Rio Grande.

Damn criminal indeed even if she later had gotten the legal matters taken care of and became very successful in life.

We just can not have such motivated people in our nation instead just those who was lucky enough to be born here such as Trump.

 

So Trump's businesses shouldn't hire latin American workers? Not sure what you point is other than Trump Bad.

 

Yes indeed I can see Trump with such fines or anyone else that is connected and powerful.

You can step on the poor and powerless but not the powerful users of the poor.

 

Concern over illegal immigrants hits pretty close to home, doesn't it?

Let me break it down for you. Illegals suck up US tax money for a range of benefits and this includes things like social services and EITC "refunds." Also, is the cost for multilingual schools, court interpreters, and so forth. Illegals commit crime. Illegals comprise a low wage labor pool impacting jobs and pay of American citizens. Illegals circumvent zoning by having multiple unrelated individuals in single family homes. And of course the changing demographics created by illegals over time reengineers the US into a single party state, i.e., the illegals will always vote for the free stuff political party. The bottom line US has no need for masses of unskilled and uneducated people.

Now my question for you. Why can't immigrants coming to the US do so in compliance with US laws?

 

LOL yes our population is no longer of a standard to maintain our republic an seem defenseless against even low level conmen.

 

Nonsense at least not one of the illegals I had known for forty years or so had suck a dime out of our nation.

Billions of dollars is being paid into SS fund yearly under false ID that those who did the paying will never see and that is just one example.

Somehow I question if you had known one illegal in your life just going with the claims of such people as Trump.

If you would like to meet illegals so you know what the hell you are talking about I would suggest hiring some of the young men hanging around a home depot parking lot looking for a few hours of work or talking to some of the men women and children working in farmers fields picking crops.

 

So how did you tell the illegal immigrants in South FL from the illegal immigrants?

 

The commission provided some specific examples of how the guidelines would apply. For instance, violations could include:

• Harassing a restaurant patron because of their accent;

This is thought-police stuff. People have a right to be jerks.

• Refusing to make repairs on an apartment occupied by an immigrant family and threatening to call ICE if they complain;

The underlined is already a crime, I'm sure. Calling ICE on someone for retaliation purposes should be illegal, if it's not already. It's too much like SWATting. It's impossible for a person to know another person's citizenship. ICE referrals should only be made by people with credible suspicious, otherwise, ICE would have to waste it's time. I imagine there are already laws about how/why you should contact ICE.

• Paying a lower wage or withholding wages to workers because of their immigration status;

So I imagine this would apply to VISA holders. I don't agree with this. Hiring a person on a VISA is a bit of a gamble, and I would allow employers to offer lower compensation based on that. If I was living in London on a VISA, I would certainly expect an employer to prefer a British citizen over me, all things being equal.

• Harassing a store customer by telling them to stop speaking their language and demanding they speak English.

More thought-police stuff. The way to solve that is through boycotts.

 

footnote every time a new group that enter the nation there is fear that they will change the very nature of the nation.

First or second law pass by congress greatly increase the time needed to become a citizen and therefore vote due to the fear that the waves of the French fleeing the French revolution would take power from the English population.

 

As far as my flight instructor was concern he told me as this was before the age of Trump.

 

I was born in England but I am now an American citizen.
Not sure what canine and feline living accommodation has to do with it.

 

Assuming they knowingly hired them and weren’t fooled by phony ID. Do celebrities who hire illegals to mow their lawns or clean their pools also get fined?

 

No one here legally could have done her job? Not a single person here legally? Not one? Why doesn’t her country of origin regale in her successful splendor and request that she help morph them away from a country its citizens need to escape from into a country that’s not a shithole?

 

I think I would have simply asked if this Wonder Women is still undocumented or was she motivated enough to become naturalized? Regardless, she certainly is one in a million, eeeeeek, that's not saying much about the rest of the dimwits we are spending tax dollars on, MY DEEPEST apologies for my insensitivity in this matter!

 

Look at who is on the city council = https://council.nyc.gov/districts/ Three Repubs out of 51 members.

 

If a bar tender serves someone underage they has a fake ID, they are still in trouble. Employers should be no different.

Of course. EVERYONE who hires an illegal.

 

If they included all crimes then everyone in the country would be a criminal - have you ever in your life gone above the speed limit or carried out other similar crimes?

 

There is no ban against reporting a genuine illegal alien. The ban is against threatening to call the immigration authorities just to harass legal immigrants

 

I would agree, except that the crimes I listed in my post are not "speed ticket" type of crimes. They're serious crimes. Fraud, stolen SSN's are both felonies of which 75% of illegal aliens participate in.

 

To be more precise it is a ban against companies from calling someone an "illegal alien", it's a public accommodation law from everything that I have seen/read. Question as I have not read the law, does it allow exceptions for when such is said of an actual illegal alien?

 

Defamation doesn't violate the 1st amendment.