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Clean energy jobs outnumber fossil fuel jobs in most US states

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by PeppermintTwist, Mar 28, 2017.

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are also jobs in the innovation sectors of clean energy, but this will not stop the swindler-in-chief from kissing butt of big oil to line his pockets and those of his cronies.
     
    PeppermintTwist, Mar 28, 2017
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Take away the government subsidies and make them compete in a free market and they won't.
     
    jmblt2000, Mar 28, 2017
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    How much do we spend in blood and treasure to protect the oil supply? How much was the Iraq war alone? The only reason we care about the ME is oil.

    How much blood of fallen soldiers is represented in a barrel of oil?

    Well, that and the religious belief that we have to protect Israel.

    PS. Solar has dropped in price by about 90% and still dropping every year. I believe wind power is now competitive in many areas. Also, third-generation alternative fuels are down to about $5 a gallon - down from $30 a gallon and almost competitive with the price at the pump.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    Big oil doesn't care about Trump.. He's just a gasbag. Big oil is also working on the future when petroleum will be used for gasoline and manufacturing.. but everything else will be solar, geothermal, wind, etc.

    Saudi Arabia has been working of solar (successfully) and hy solar since 1982.
     
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    Yeah, yeah and we killed what was left of Iraqi oil production after two decades of war and sanctions.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Heh, yeah, that didn't work out so well. But our entire footprint in the ME is because of oil. And recent Russian aggression is largely about energy as well.
     
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    The price of gas at the pump doesn't show the trillion's of dollars spent
    or American lives lost in the Middle East to attempt to keep the area stabilized !
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Actually, since the 70s, the price of solar has dropped 99.7%

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    takes twice the people and twice the $ to make less energy? And this is a good thing to you?
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But Putin cares a lot about oil as does Manafort and Exxon.
     
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    what happens when you take away government subsidies from the oil companies. you must work for an oil company trying to sell that silliness.
     
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    pff that **** sells itself, people kill over it
     
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    Coal, the future of energy!!! :rolleyes:

    Trump, Making America Great Again, one coal rock at a time.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some do actually believe that coal is the next wave of the future. Did you know that surgery performed without anesthesia is making a comeback too? That will lower medical costs.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those sanctions put in place by Obama is bringing Russia to its knees.
     
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    Why do you think Tillerson is sec of state? He has to earn that Russian medal.
     
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    It's a mystery why Donnie is trying to set this country back decades. Is he getting money under the table? Is he ignorant? We report, you decide...
     
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    Now you KNOW Trump Chumps HATE facts.
    Facts are like trolling to them.
    Just watch the rabid responses...:D
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course he is ignorant. He gets his information from right wing commentators.
     
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    and the graph of government subsidies funding the industry is a curve in the opposite direction. Coincidence?
     
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    “American taxpayers spent an average of $39 billion a year over the past 5 years financing grants, subsidizing tax credits, guaranteeing loans, bailing out failed solar energy boondoggles and otherwise underwriting every idea under the sun to make solar energy cheaper and more popular,”

    No doubt. But I'm thinking the day of the US taxpayer funding every boondoggle a Gruber-Obama moron can think of is coming to an end.
     
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    I wish that made sense
     
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    Do you know what we gave to oil companies in subsidies? 39 billion is a grain of sand
     
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    Are you also talking about the corporate welfare that companies like boeing and Nike and Exxon and all the others yet
     
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