Climate Change Deniers Are Costing Big Business In The U.S. Billions

Do you not read what others post? You had it on black and white that roads were built for bikes. You had a NATIONAL movement for better roads before cars.
And you compare your bike with the bikes from the 19th century? Did you read my post about the pneumatic tires? How bikes were before the tire?

Ignoring facts is sad.

 

We have a problem with pollution, lets work on that fact instead of fighting over global warming or change which would fix itself once we address the real problem which is pollution.

 

Yeah. I know that bikes in the US were opposed big time by the car industry and that they managed to kill biking there for decades.
Bikes in cities are not only better but also helps keeping pollution at a low.

Try taking a trip to Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm or Amsterdam and see whether bikes are for people with suspended licences. Try breathing the air there compared to cities where people don't use bikes to the same extent.

 

Yeah. I'm sure it's an illness. All you have to do is read the disjointed nonsensical arguments they make. You've put the cart before the horse in this post in order to demolish your previous claim because you apparently forgot what you were actually arguing.

Roads were not improved to support the development of the bike industry. The people who wanted road improvements already had bikes and they wanted better roads to ride them on. This is the opposite of what you claimed about automobiles which, as I claimed, were designed to transport people on infrastructure that already exists. Beyond that, it wasn't the dreaded bike lobby that held back the development of the automobile. Automobiles flourished because they were a superior mode of transportation. By the same token it's not the dreaded automobile lobby that prevents people from hopping around in helicopters or space ships. It's the fact that helicopters and space ships are still less economical means of travel and that fact prevents their popularity. You can build all the helipads and space ports you want. It's not going to cause the Sikorsky or Space x to suddenly become the stock to buy.

Also, ironically, pneumatic tires were designed to be used on inferior road surfaces. They are needed to gain traction on uneven or loose terrain. The trade off is that they are not very efficient. A lot of energy is wasted deflecting the rubber in the tire as the tire contacts the ground and then springs back into shape during rotation. This is why trains don't have pneumatic tires. They use steel wheels. Steel wheels would be much more efficient, and waste much less energy, but, the infrastructure we have today does not support such a wheel so it is impractical to use.

 

Not to mention the fact that the liberals often look to the poor as a means to enact their twisted plans to limit the Earth's population.

 

So what?

Even if it turns out not to be true, we will be preserving our oil and gas deposits so that they will last longer.

Fuel is probably the most wasteful use of petrocarbons to begin with.

 

Coal mining is not really a fun job, and it's especially not fun when a mine caves in..

Also, I guess you haven't noticed the number of train wrecks we've been having.

 

I don't know if this global warming is for real or not. But if it is it is Mother Nature doing her thing. Mankind has been trying to control the weather ever since he started walking on two feet. I doubt he has reached that ability as of yet.

 

The physical world is made up entirely of chemicals and energy. If we are a natural product of the physical world then everything we make was created as part of a natural process. The word "pollutant" is meaningless in this closed system.

So what's the goal here? Are too many humans a pollutant? If the goal is diversity of life independent of human life, should we stop disinfecting our hospitals and counter tops so that microbes can flourish? Should we pump MORE CO2 into biomes with less photosynthetic diversity? Should we do everything we can to increase the temperature of the Earth so that more habitable environments can be created?

 

You're going to have a serious struggle convincing those who preach the global warming crisis BS to step back and focus on simple pollution. One reasons is that there is too much already known about pollution so there isn't a lot of money to be made "interpreting" anything new.

 

That was one of the worst things I've ever read. The idea that climate change denial costs money is ridiculous in of itself but the transition to attacking "trickle down" economics was tenuous enough to be kind of funny.

 

What idiocy what killed biking in this country is distance, not automobiles. There are cities in the US that are bigger than some European countries. Average commutes in some places are 30 miles one way try doing that on a bicycle every day rain or shine. Biycling is a hobby here it is a necessity in Europe where freaking gas is made exceptionally expensive by taxation not on the oil companies but on the consumers.

 

That is all true -- and should be more than enough reason to try to wean ourselves from NON-RENEWABLE energy sources asap, instead of even increasing their rate of extraction, as conservatives suggest. The essence of stupidity to me is the reliance of the world economy on a energy source THAT WE KNOW WILL RUN OUT. Diversifying is our friend, as every investor can tell you.

Oh, you must be one of the people that I see once in a while who look at me with pity when they see me riding my bike to work, while they drive their behemoth SUV. On the other hand, I pity them for forgoing the joys of riding a bike, exercising your body, while saving valuable energy resources at the same time.

 

You should read a few books on bicycle history. Car manufacturers in the US were very successful in convincing people the bike was for kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_bicycle

http://www.wsj.com/articles/book-re...e-american-road-by-james-longhurst-1428695593

But thanks for proving how little you know with a comment like this.

 

According to the liberals, all successful industries accomplish their success by tricking consumers into buying inferior products they don't need. They then abuse their power and ill gotten gains to prevent competitive business from bringing superior products to market.

 

Saving a valuable resource that you want to get rid of. ? oh well .More gas for the rest of us. Thank you.

 

I like warmer weather and I live no where near the coasts.

If global warming truly exists and rising sea levels are a reality, then the areas to "drown out" and have their populations dispersed soonest will be liberal concentrations such as New York City.

So bring it on!!!!

 

You don't see people flocking to North Dakota to retire.

 

I am not the one who wants to get rid of it. No, I'd rather my kids and grand-kids have some oil leftover, so they don't have to live in misery and say: "My irresponsible grandparents used up the most valuable resource our planet has ever seen with wanton disregard for the future, leaving us to live in poverty and starvation."

 

Then you can thank Obama for denying re-leases in the Arctic and surrendering the Arctic oil to Russia and China.

 

Many post nonsense here. There were plenty of roads centuries before the bike came along better than the ones you say were built for them

How were wagons before them ? A bit stiffer ride. The interstates were not built for bicycles. Not one road where I was born was made for bikes in fact no road I have ever seen or heard of what built at first for bikes. They were never ours or anyone elses primary means of transportation

It sure is

 

So you quote and respond without reading because you decided "many post nonsense"?
If you want to reply to me I expect you to read what I write. Otherwise there is no point in being on a forum.
Your anecdotal evidence and personal experience doesn't matter. I gave you some links to read about the subject. Either read them and respond with that knowledge or move along.

 

I read it. Your quoting WIKI

Is there another person here who believes our roads were first designed for bicycles?

 

Perhaps Warren Buffett, who the left just loves, will come to the rescue. Oh, that's right, OWNER(through Berkshire Hathaway) of BNSF railroad which makes a (*)(*)(*)(*) ton of money hauling oil, coal, etc, etc.