Climate scientist accused of employer rort

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  1. Windigo

    Windigo Banned

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    No its not. You can look at someones evidence and come to the conclusion that the person selling you hasn't provided significant evidence to prove their case.

    See above there is a difference between incomplete evidence and insufficient evidence.

    Nope

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  2. jackdog

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    to me the AGW scam is a two edged sword in some ways. Yes it has driven up energy costs in the western world but on the other hand we don't have rivers catching on fire like we did back in the 1960's and our air is a lot cleaner here in the USA. Basically we have exported a lot of jobs and most of our pollution to China and India. Now we can buy 1000 dollar UHDTV sets and when they break send them back to China for recycle. We are still poisoning the Earth, we are just paying the Chinese to poison their part of it while we keep our part relatively clean. All those explosions and tech accidents in the Ganzhou Province you have seen in the news. That's your old LiPO and NiCd batteries etc headed for disposal and new ones on the way to the rest of the world

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150402-the-worst-place-on-earth

    Dozens of pipes line the shore, churning out a torrent of thick, black, chemical waste from the refineries that surround the lake. The smell of sulphur and the roar of the pipes invades my senses. It feels like hell on Earth.
    Welcome to Baotou, the largest industrial city in Inner Mongolia. I'm here with a group of architects and designers called the Unknown Fields Division, and this is the final stop on a three-week-long journey up the global supply chain, tracing back the route consumer goods take from China to our shops and homes, via container ships and factories.
     
  3. Windigo

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    Never underestimate alarmists ability to change the data to fit their bias.
     
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    This is the kind of statement I usually hear from a soccer mom as she is getting into her big ass SUV that gets 14 mpg.
     
  5. MrNick

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    These clowns have been doing this for years...... They want grants for their nonsense AGW crap and then when they get them they use the money to fund their lifestyle and pet projects....

    AGW is the biggest scam in the history of humanity....

    This (*)(*)(*)(*) is on the level of ENRON...
     
  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. You point out a scenario where EVIDENCE is the basis of skepticism.

    As for your graph, it appears to be one that was leaked without following publication protocol, thus avoiding the review that publication requires.

    I'll also note that you published it without ANY indication of who did this analysis.

    That is also evidence, by the way.

    So, I'm curious: Why should I accept this chart with it's comments, provided outside of science, while ignoring all information and review on how the analysis was performed, how error bars were handled, what was considered "accurate", what was considered an appropriate prediction model to evaluate, etc.???

    Sorry - you chart is garbage.
     
  7. Windigo

    Windigo Banned

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    In other words fingers in ears la la la

    You're so funny.
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Climate models are unverifiable but they are falsifiable and the troposphere models are deviating the most from observed temperatures, both satellite and balloon measurements which are close to each other; thus, continuing to falsify the current assumptions. The troposphere is where warming is supposed to show first.
     
  9. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Look, it was you who posted a chart that was totally without context, given no attribution, no scientific review, and no explanation.

    You can get back in this if you are willing to post actual science.

    I'm glad you are skeptical, but skepticism must lead us to examine actual evidence, not random charts on the internet.

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    Please cite.
     

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