College enrollments drop 6.5%,lowest in 50 years.

Not if they're dependent on Govt. Your PhD's won't make a jot of difference if you've failed the basics of survival.

The least easily manipulated is the self-sufficient individual. Those who own property and can support themselves.

 

We need to IMPORT our brainiacs.

 

You actually think that college - especially the Progressive preferred Arts/Humanities - is going to protect kids from being sucked into cultish ideologies? And that they won't end up denying science (like claiming a man can be a woman) etc?

Wow. That's ****ing funny.

 

It's actually designed to allow kids who don't have rich parents, to go to college. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with poor kids going to college.

It's not lack of foresight on the part of the banks/govt that causes unpayable student debt ... it's lack of foresight on the part of the kid (and their apparently useless parents) who borrowed money to take a degree which would not pay them well enough to repay the loan.

 

No need for racist comments. Students are being cheated out of the full college experience. Tuition is the same amount, but students are sitting through Zoom lectures. Its a good time to take a year off to pursue ones passion.

 

I was just 'doing them', as it were.

But yeah, my kids are currently paying for Zoomducation. It's not ideal, but they'll at least come out with useful degrees. Not sure what you mean by 'the full college experience'. Most kids I know (including my own), love not having to commute to campus.

 

Thinking for yourself is the polar OPPOSITE of everything the Left and Democrats are preaching lately. You either think how they tell you, or you get cancelled. Your post is laughable in its utter ignorance of reality. It would have been far more relevant back in the 80s and prior. But now, Republicans are for thinking for yourself and being open minded which is amusing as well. The Left is Totalitarianism personified. Everything is flipped.

 

We do, but the majority are home grown.

 

Ah! Got it!

My daughter graduated before Covid. She developed relationships with professors, got to have friends, study partners, and of course, beer pong parties! She shared a 1 bedroom apartment with 3 other students, managed a monthly budget, and got to feel independent.

My youngest son started college after Covid and sat alone in his room on his computer for a semester. He is taking a year off to do other things.

 

That reply proves your depth of this issue is thin as piss on a rock.

To get a doctorate often leaves graduates with crushing debt. We aren't investing in our youth the way we did even a generation ago.

 

Right. Definitely "mental barriers". That's what I'm talking about. Nothing blocks the mind like anti-education extreme right wing propaganda. It's the cause that 58% (according to your numbers) are not interested in post-secondary education.

 

I'm not talking about "an educated mind" Just educated enough that they don't fall for QAnon, white-supremacist, right wing propaganda. And higher education doesn't guarantee that, but it makes it less likely.

As for what makes an educated mind, that's a different topic, but I have always held that the role of a university is to teach people how to learn. The information you receive is more like a "sample" of what you'll be learning about in your professional life.

 

Maybe so. But I don't know them. The reason some polls only mention college and universities could be that THAT'S the purpose of college and universities. There is no way to know if somebody is a self-taught intellectual.

I only quote the parts of the post I am responding to. When I don't quote something it's either because it's off-topic (unless I can think of something funny to say about it), or I have nothing to comment. That way you know exactly what I am responding to. I mean... you remember what you wrote, don't you? You don't need me to repeat it to you.

For example, trade schools are not the type of education I am referring to. The primary purpose of trade schools is to teach a trade. Universities might teach a trade, but their primary purpose is to teach critical thinking.

And it's lack of critical thinking that has lead so many people to believe conspiracy theories, The Big Lie, QAnon, science denialism... all the things I mentioned in my original post.

 

Only the good ones.

 

Among Republicans, in the traditional sense... I must confess that I have seen some improvement. Not huge, but significant. Their problem is that they don't have a party anymore. The leadership of their party has been taken over by QAnon, white supremacists and science denialists. So it's like a rollercoaster.

 

It says self doubt and logistics are the cause. You are making things up.

 

You said 42%. Quiz: how much is 100% minus 42%?

You are either interested in pursuing higher education, or you're not. Your post refers to those who are, my post refers to those who are not. I believe many (maybe even most) of them are the victims of extremist right-wing anti-education propaganda. And I say this only because there is A LOT of it. And this is bad for this country. Very very bad. It has led to millions of people believing conspiracy theories, science denialism, QAnon, The Big Lie... and so on.

 

Strangely another number declining of late is the number filing for unemployment which has also shown a steady decline recently.

 

Got it. In this country kids commute to university. Very few move out of home because there simply isn't any need to. Every city has at least one very good university, and capital cities have many - so kids don't need to look at options they can't commute to. It's also not affordable to live independently while a full time student. Living in 'dorms' the way Americans do, is possible here, but such facilities are very limited, and at $600 per week are way out of the reach of regular folk.

Many kids treat university as a job here .. they turn up only when they absolutely have to, do the work, then leave ASAP. I think it's just a very different university culture here, particularly for STEM students.

 

Well my daughter was in college during the pandemic. A very underwhelming education experience. Zoom didn't cut it. I'm sure that is a big factor.