Coming to your town: 85,000 more Haitians.... Jpe, what the hell are you doing to America?

~ One reason for the surge in Covid cases probably has more to do with Crazy Joe letting - and encouraging - 200k unvaccinated and untested "undocumented refugees " flood the country every month. As far as another lockdown is concerned, this is pure politics and just another way the Democrats want to cripple our economy and remove the middle-class. ​

 

it's sad, you seem to be upset about it, but then get upset when people remind you Trump did it

be consistent, just say both are wrong

 

He didn't do it. Save partially building a wall which the current lefties in power promptly halted (and which is needed now more than ever), he didn't really change a thing about immigration at all, as the laws were unchanged throughout his term. Yes, he did a couple of good things with EOs, like keeping wanna be illegals in Mexico until we could process them, and instituting catch and detain rather than catch and release, the problem with that is "live by the EO, die by the EO", which is easily seen as the current surrender monkey in the Whitehouse just reversed them all with the stroke of a pen. Now, had he managed to get them passed into a law, that might have been a more permanent solution, and should have been done, but sadly was not.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, so if you would care to reword it, maybe I'll address it then.

 

the left offered Trump his money for the wall in return for DACA, Trump missed that opportunity

I guess Trump thought he could get Mexico to pay for it

 

When you're prepared to talk about the future instead of the past, then get back to me. I do not care about what should or should not have happened yesterday, I want to talk about what we should do tomorrow as it's far, far more relevant.

 

Trump wants to run in 2024, did you forget? so it's not just the past

 

That doesn't make him relevant to the question of what should happen today, in 2021. I'm not stupid enough to have any serious hope that my suggestions will be implemented by a hardcore leftist regime. Biden is not all that hardcore, but everyone around him is, and they simply would never allow him to sign a bill that called for strict enforcement of immigration laws in the first place. But the truth is you don't even have to be a hardcore leftist to be against the suggestions I have and will continue making.

Y'all want open borders, or at least something damn close to it. Whereas I am a hard core endorser of taking radical measures to rid our borders of people who do not belong here because they didn't come here legally. TODAY, not in 2024. Should Trump manage to live that long (which I personally doubt), and should he decide to actually run again, then he becomes relevant again. But not now, at least not for most subjects, and this is one of them. Until then his opinions are no more important than are yours or mine. And I don't see people making me (or you) the center of attention on topics that have nothing to do with either of us. Sure, either of us might run for the Office of the Presidency in 2024, and if we do, then we become relevant to many if not most threads you can find here.

So, if you wish to discuss the issue of immigration in 2021, you know where to find me. If you wish to continue making this thread about nothing but our ex-President, then I'm out, at least as far as you are concerned. The choice is yours to make.

 

what he did in the last 4 years and what he would do in 2024 is very relevant

 

They can't make their countries work because your government and other governments continually interfere in the political, social and economic affairs of those countries.

Apparently, Truth is not something you can handle.

Central America?

Your government has illegally overthrown the Honduran government 14 times in the last 100 years, the most recent being in July 2009 by the Dynamic Duo Obama-Clinton.

How many times has the US government been overthrown in the same period?

Hmm?

Wanna know what I did in Honduras? Well, when your government wasn't illegally overthrowing Honduran governments, your government was terrorizing Hondurans. My platoons escorted suits around from village-to-village threatening and terrorizing Honduran villagers into voting for the US-backed puppet dictator.

Seen any armed troops in your town lately? Anyone come to your door threatening you?

Guatemala?

President Truwoman sentenced President Arbenz to death for the heinous crime of attempting to build a port on the west coast of Guatemala.

Why? Well, you government gave the port on the east coast that it did not build to Chiquita. So, Chiquita collected all of the import and export tariffs, taxes and duties and not the Guatemalan government.

Chiquita paid no taxes to Guatemala.

The US gave the only power generation plant in Guatemala to Chiquita, too. Chiquita charged monopoly rates. When Arbenz started building a power plant that would very obviously have competed with Chiquita, Truwoman was furious.

Fortunately, Truwoman wasn't able to carry out the cold-blooded execution and overthrow of President Arbenz, and Eisencoward commuted Arbenz' sentence to just overthrow. And so Arbenz was overthrown.

Wanna talk about Somalia?

President Schemarke refused to sign-off on a deal that would have given a conglomerate of Texaco, Conoco, Phillips and Amoco 92% of the oil profits.

So, your government murdered Schemarke in cold blood and installed Mohammed Barre who fleeced you for 10 years before he was overthrown.

And then there was nobody.

And then there was Mohammed Adid.

And then there was a cool flick called Blackhawk Down 'cause a bunch of Rangers and Special Ops dudes got killed trying to fix a mistake your government made.

How did Schemarke know your government was going to screw him?

Because you screwed Castro.

Batista wanted to tax US companies in Cuba and that angered Eisencoward so he and the Snake Department pressured Batista to release Castro and the others who fire-bombed an army barracks. Then they invited Castro to Mexico City to recruit him to overthrow Batista.

CIA Agent Frank Sturgis was Castro's S-1, S-2, S-3, S-4 and bodyguard all rolled into one.

Sturgis coordinated the air drops of weapons, ammunition and supplies for Castro's army and they were air-dropped by CIA-trained pilots flying B-26 Marauder's out of Nicaragua and Honduras.

Then Eisencoward brought Castro to the US where he was cheered on by 1,000s in Times Square as a hero, and by 10s of 1,000s more on the other 10 cities Castro visited to see all the Americans hailing him as a hero.

Castro went back to Cuba only to discover that he ain't got no money because you can't tax US companies and US companies don't have to pay the paltry 8% in profits they're supposed to be paying and then when Castro begged National Sugar to pay Cuban sugar cane field workers $0.90/ day because they'd been paid $0.30/day since 1898 when the US took over and National Sugar paid its field workers $0.90/day in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua so what freaking difference does it make, he seized all US assets.

And that was Castro's legal right under international law, US law and Cuban law.

Same thing in Mexico.

US oil and natural gas companies wouldn't pay Mexican workers salaries comparable to US workers.

When I say Mexican workers, I don't mean the roly-poly Native Americans with the cute little label "Hispanics" attached to them, I'm talking about the White Mexicans whose families came from France, Belgium, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands and who got their PhDs in chemical engineering and geology at Harvard, MIT, Ohio State, Purdue, Northwestern and Texas Tech.

They went to court. While the Mexican government is investigating, they discover US oil companies committed fraud by devaluing their assets to that little 8% royalty on profits.

So, President Cardenas took the US oil and natural gas companies back to court in a case that went to the Mexican Supreme Court who said the US companies have to pay comparable wages, and pay all the back-royalties and have to pay all the back-taxes.

The US oil companies refused, so a year later President Cardenas lawfully seized all US oil company assets under international law, US law and Mexican law.

And Cardenas offered FDR $24 Million in compensation, since that was the value of the assets as stated by the oil companies themselves.

FDR was so livid he jumped out of his wheel-chair.

He wanted to invade Mexico, overthrow the government and seize the oil and natural gas fields, because, well, that's how you got them in the first place by invading Mexico, illegally overthrowing the government and seizing the oil fields.

This was 1939 and everyone knew the US was gonna be in WW II and so FDR's general wisely advised him that it just wasn't possible to tie up 3 Army divisions, a Marine division and the entire US 2nd Fleet to invade Mexico, so that was the end of it.

If you wanna know exactly what FDR said, go read, because those documents were declassified about 12 years ago.

That's the Great Christian Nation you are.

You got where you are by standing on everyone else's back and robbing them blind and when the day comes not too long from now when you can no longer do that, you will fall so hard you'll bounce off the ground with enough escape velocity to leave Earth's orbit.

Good luck with that.

 

Not sure if you are a frustrated fiction author or a 007 spy with seven lives that keeps regenerating himself. One thing for sure, that's a hell of a fantasy world.

Your story reminds me of a guy who was telling my mother a story about catching a 23 lb bullfrog. Mom said- are you sure that wasn't 3 pounds of frog and 20 pounds of bull?

 

Biden now wants to reimpose Trumps stay in Mexico policy for those seeking political asylum.

 

What's that old saying about closing the barn door after the horses are gone?

 

B iden is importing the 3rd world to replace Americans.