Conservatives: Are you a fundamentalist?

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  1. IrishLefty

    IrishLefty New Member

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    After observing a vast amount of disdain for science in the United States from elected officials and on this forum, I am left wondering, how many of you Conservatives on this forum consider yourself fundamentalist Christians?

    Further, this might be asking the same question, but how many of you either take the Bible literally and/or believe every word of it to be true?

    In my opinion, the influence, of such individuals on the political fate of the United States is disturbingly strong. And many Americans are led to hold some pretty disturbing views from literalist interpretations of religious texts.
     
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    Don't expect any sensible reply from those you're speaking to, they love the ignore button so nobody interupts their circle jerks, and your words are like sunlight to bloodsuckers.
    But, there does seem to be a huge % that just go by god's word, errantly thinking it'll all be fine in the end, so they have no problem screwing everybody, including themselves, in his name. They are the chosen ones, end of debate. The rest are just baseless haters.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm atheist, and find great enjoyment in exposing/obstructing progressive leftism.

    I am not alone.
     
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    Yes many conservative are fundamentalist christians.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I'm a conservative, but am not a fundamentalist--I'm a religious Catholic.

    I also have a bachelor's degree in Biology and a master's degree in Marine Biology.
     
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    Do you believe in evolution?
     
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    He should consider the evolution if he's biologist :-D

    And he shouldn't believe in it. Just know that the evolution explains what it has to explain: the origin of the species.
     
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    I have three science degrees, and I consider myself a Fundamental Christian.

    I believe in evolution in the sense that there is evolution within a species due to environmental influences. However, I don't believe that humans evolved from monkeys for example.

    It is more sensible to believe in creative design than to try to reason how the details of the human body evolved from a lower form. :)
     
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    How can it be more sensible if there is no evidence for creationism and overwhelming evidence for evolution?

    Also, what degrees do you have specifically?
     
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    Humans didn't evolve from monkeys. Everybody knows that. And if you have three science degrees you should know that.
     
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    Of course. It is the best explanation that the evidence leads us to. My theological belief (not my scientific one) is that God uses evolution as His method of creation. The Bible is not a history and science book. It is to teach us about human nature and our relationship with God. It rarely does so literally.
     
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    Man, you have a low opinion of God, IMHO. To say that He specially designed the human body is insulting. It has way too many failure points. I can't believe that God intentionally designed it. I also can't believe that God would intentionally create a mite that impregnates it's sisters by penetrating into it's brother's anatomy, all while in the egg sac.

    My personal opinion is that God used evolution to design the body. Creating us in His image was giving us a soul and free will.

    No scientist would say that we evolved from monkeys. They would say we evolved from creatures that were also the ancestors of monkeys. Both lineages have diverged from that common ancestor since then.
     
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    Sounds reasonable.
     
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    When I said from monkeys, I was using a common description. Obviously, I knew that if evolution as you described was true, there would likely have been a common ancestor. However, the scriptures does not say that.
     
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    So you just blindly believe them and ignore the overwhelming evidence and universal scientific consensus?
     
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    Since Im agnostic at best, can I still get in your one size fits all labeling?:rolleyes:
     
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    As a Christian, I do not believe in eternal hell. I cannot reason its viable need or justification.

    What I can reason is that non-believers will perish(complete non-existence) while believers will exist in a non-corruptive higher state of being.

    I see mans existence as nothing more than a precursor to heaven. Our lives are nothing but a drop in time. How long we live is irrelevent, how we live is of utmost importance.
     
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    Yep lots of conservatives are fundmentalists.. It emerged in the Dust Bowl and Depression years with evangelists like Amy Semple Mcpherson.

     
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    I think this is a very careless and/or dishonest representation here. While it is true that some in the conservative wing to reject certain popular scientific claims, this is hardly a partisan practice. American liberals are just as guilty of rejecting scientific findings when they interfere with the "progressive" agenda. Someone actually posted a thread on this very thing yesterday. I'll have to go dig it up now.

    In short, if you want to knock conservatives for their skepticism of climate change or in some cases even evolution, that's fine. But all I ask is that you be consistent about it and call liberals out on their opposition to science as well. Conservatives hardly have a monopoly on anti-science views.
     
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    What science have liberals rejected?
     
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    I'm a fiscal conservative and an atheists. Many liberals are Marxists. Some are Stalinists or Maoists. Some are simply psychotic.

    I don't see the point to any of this. Some of the most faithful true believers I've ever met are on the left.
     
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    You are associating all leftists with the most extreme and totalitarian on the same side of the spectrum. Such an assertion is with all due respect, contrary to reality.
     
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    You are not supposed to "believe" in any science...You collect all of the evidence and make an educated guess....If tests prove that guess to be true fine, if not look for more evidence for or against it....

    That is why science is better than religion.....It does not include bling faith....
     
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    IrishLefty: "After observing a vast amount of disdain for science in the United States from elected officials and on this forum, I am left wondering, how many of you Conservatives on this forum consider yourself fundamentalist Christians?"

    IrishLefty, does hypocricy have any meaning for you? The "vast amount of disdain for science in the United States," does not in your mind equate to associating all leftists with the most extreme?

    Your original question was idiotic and your attempts to weasel don't help.

    You are a faithful true believer.
     
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    Yet you see no disconnect in you doing the same where conservatives are regarded.

    I am a devout Christian, not a Fundamentalist but never-the-less devout and I am certified to teach science among other certifications, and in fact, was in charge of elementary science teaching at an extremely large school district.

    I have no problem believing in both my religion and in the theory of evolution. The major difference between my belief and that of an atheist is in the prime cause and mover of evolution. Atheists see it as happenstance. I see it as caused and controlled by God.
     

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