Conservatives tell us how you have suffered because you are white

So what is the ratio of whites to blacks, asians, hispanics, etc. on your job?

I would love to see the school you teach at, because if your attitude is anything at school like it is on this forum I know your students are catching hell or you are one.

Well that has been my question all along. How do you know you are more qualified than the minorities that are applying for the same teaching job. How do you know they don't have just as many degrees as you do. I am pretty sure the interviewer is not showing you the other applicants credentials when you go in for the interview.

So you don't have a problem with AA, as long as, it works in your favor.

So let me get this straight if you and a hispanic woman are equally qualified you are going to get the job because you are a white male. You don't have a problem with that, but if the roles are reversed then you claim you are being discriminated against. Talk about speaking with a forked tongue.

 

Do you think this is the standard for Section 8 housing? Are there any whites on Section 8 housing?

Show me a housing set up like this in America.

If we listened to folks like you, black folks would think slavery, Jim Crow, racism and discrimination is something we just thought up in our heads.

 

a housing set up like what, the top, or bottom picture.


The top picture is section 8 housing in America... the bottom is a flavela....


That illustrates the difference between American "poor" and REALITY "poor"


I don't feel sorry for people in section 8 thinking they can't live off of min wage.

 

sure it happened... I contend it doesn't anymore... but your people's (overall) lack of ability nowadays has to be blamed on something.... so they'll just continue to claim racism because that's easier than self-reflection and change.

 

If you think that picture you posted of Section 8 housing is the norm it shows you don't have a clue as to what you think you know about it.

Its amazing how arrogant folks like you sit on your soapbox and look down your nose at others like you are better than they are some how.

All I can tell you is the same people you see going up are the same ones you are going to see coming down.

 

Well I thought we were all Americans, my bad I keep forgetting how the Repub/Conservatives only use that line when its convenient.

I am the first to admit that many of the problems that plague the Black Community are self-inflicted, but I will also admit that some of them are due to racist attitudes (like yours) and some discrimination.

 

showing the contrast between what americans think is poor and what really is poor, you have to other countries for comparison.

When a "poor" black has an iphone, nike, lives in an aprt like I showed above, with community pool/spa, I hardly feel you are "oppressed". All it takes is opening your eyes to things and maybe you'll realize why noone in the world cares about your "plight"


here's a Mexican favela



Hell, I'd risk coming into america illegally if "poor" meant living in

 

As Americans we have a lot to proud of; this nation has treated black folks almost like real human beings for nearly fifty years. What a great country this is.

 

Those problems only seem entirely self inflicted when you completely remove any historical context.

 

What hurts me most is watching the violent crime against white people. It's getting epidemic and it's not even being acknowledged as a problem. Before I graduated high school (many moons ago), I knew five kids that were murdered before they reached age 18. All of them by blacks. Three of the victims were black. Two were white. Two of the five didn't see it coming and didn't have it coming. I remember how we all vowed to "stop the violence" in memory of our friend. We didn't stop anything.

White Girl Bleed A Lot documents the recent black on white crime epidemic. This isn't whitey being paranoid. It's real. And if you refuse to acknowledge it, you're an accomplice. I don't hate the perpetrators of these crimes. I don't hate their race. What I hate is political correctness in which lady justice removes the blindfolds to see the victim's skin color, and then adjudicates according to best politically correct practice. It's disgusting. It's not justice.

 

Having seen Blackrook's way of thinking and style of argumentation here, I would probably reject him from a law school also if it were my place to do so. It would be for his own good.

 

I'm am not a conservative, but I will answer your question. The fact is that affirmative action exists. Hence, Whites and other "over-represented groups" (like Asians) are not judged by the same standards as African Americans or Hispanics, and men are not judged by the same standards as women.

I also think you are attacking a strawman by claiming Conservatives have stated that they were experiencing "tremendous suffering" because I have not heard this phrase used by anyone. What is undeniable is the inequality of judgment in our universities. What is undeniable is that liberals are ignoring MLK's dream of "judging people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" and rather embracing a system of racism that is contrary to his dream which is, in its most basic sense, no different than the Jim Crow laws of the Deep South.

 

You are just showing different levels of what is poor.

I didn't realize owning an IPhone makes you rich. Hell most carriers will give you the phone for free just to sign a two year plan.

Again most Section 8 housing doesn't look like what you are trying to describe as Section 8 housing. That must be Section 8 housing in Beverly Hills.

So you are basically just moving up the poor ladder.

 

I agree, LBJ once said, "You do not take a person who for years has been hobbled by chains, and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line, and then say, 'You are free to compete with others."

Dr. King once said, "You can't ask folks who don't have boots, to pull themselves up by their boot straps."

 

The reverse racism rhetoric in this country is a lot of nonsense; some white folks apparently expect black folks to completely forget about American history. As if the century after the Civil War never happened and couldn't possibly have any effect on the current social/political dynamic. Historic injustice and inequality only began to be redressed less than fifty years ago. We have a long way to go to resolve the racial divide in this country.

 

You may not know this, but slavery was eliminated 150 years ago in this country, and the Jim Crow era in the South ended 50 years ago, so this begs the question, how much time do you feel is enough for African Americans to freely compete with everyone else on equal grounds? Also, Hispanics were never enslaved in this country (nor were woman), so why does AA benefit these groups as well?

Additionally, Japanese Americans were unlawfully and forcefully interned under FDR, so why does AA hurt Japanese Americans, rather than help them? Why does this clash of reasoning exist when it comes to Japanese Americans?

First of all, this quote has nothing to do with racial preferences/affirmative action. Rather, it is about poor people. Second, MLK also famously said in his "I have a Dream" speech, that "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." This quote speaks volumes that MLK clearly abhored any system that judged people based on skin color.

 

Spare us the pity party. By what the rest of the world's standard of what poor is, our poor got it pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ing good here.
Let me know when you meet third world standards of poor, until that point you got nothing.

 

Um, because ignorance allows the misconception that AA is retribution for slavery. AA addresses disenfranchisement in society. Women (white included) were disenfranchised from suffrage. Blacks are disenfranchised because of racism. Hispanics are also disenfranchised from racism.

AA was an attempt to even out the playing field, but bigots have succeeded in vomiting out misinformation to play to people's emotions and fears.

 

Considering that Blacks voted in something like the 98 percent range for Barack Obama in 2008 and in 2012 . . . that's a rather strange concept of being disenfranchised.

 

Funny all I hear is that Blacks have it so bad because of racism. How Blacks are being held back. One wonders if true, how come Blacks have held almost every major office in Government except for V.P?

 

Yes, a lifetime to most Blacks living today. But they still want to blame their problems to what happened before most of them were born. Blacks have held almost every major office in government. Many are CEO's of major corporations. They have AA to even give them a leg up. So what's their problem? Could it be that to many are dropping out of school, having babies and not married and no father to support them? Could it be that they commit to much crime, get into to many gangs? It's time to stop blaming others for what is happening. It's easy to see if you want to get ahead, you can do it. But you can't do like a great many of Blacks are doing today and make it. Just maybe what many are doing today helps bring on racism.

 

Black folks sure are lucky to have so many white folks around to make suggestions for them. Rush Limbaugh's favorite pass time.

 

I give my kids suggestions all the time. Most of the time they ignore it. Do you want to blame Limbaugh or Whites for the problems Blacks have?

 

If this statement was made by a White, it would be considered racist. But it wasn't. Maybe this is one of the big problems that bring on so much racism. That cause so much problems for Blacks.

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.... After all we have been through. Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating."

 

I want to blame reactionary propagandists like Limbaugh for simplifying history into a context that exploits people's ignorance.