Conspiracy Theorists Harass Vegas Victims

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a few crazies think its a hoax and you make them representatives of half the country?
     
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    No, but houses aren't usually used for violence. Unless they're really ugly.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My post was in response to a claim that government confiscation of firearms was a conspiracy theory. California law requires owners of firearms with specific features to register them as "assault weapons". They can never be sold or transferred, so it is nothing more than a slower way to confiscate firearms. If they could erode the second amendment faster, they would. Would you like to guess how many criminals and gang members registered their firearms?
     
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    I take your word for it that your friend's daughter is dead.

    That does not change the fact that the event itself was a training exercise gone bad, or perversely, not gone bad. Yes Virginia, some humans murder others, and it's been that way for a long time.

    I view the event through the eye of an investigator, and the bulk of the facts and evidence do not support the official story. Goodness, they've found pictures taken at the wrong time of the year, extremely unusual real estate transactions for some of those involved, blatant crisis actors, signs telling 'participants' to 'check in', and so much more.

    I'm not here to retry the Sandy Hook thing, but all these events, SH, SB, Pulse, Vegas and others have so many common elements, common behavior, that they all establish a pattern of behavior.

    Peace, Tres Borrachos.
     
  5. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Jessica Rekos is dead. Her mother dressed her for school that day, 11 days before Christmas, and sent her on her way there. While in her classroom, a young man came in and shot her and her classmates. She died in a heap of children huddled into a bathroom the size of a coat closet.
     
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    The young man was carrying guns and ammo that weighed more than he did. Then, according to the medical examiner, he used a long gun to kill very small targets inside a very small room.

    My bet TB, is you have never fired an AR15.

    Sorry lady, the story doesn't wash. I'm sorry Jessica died. A friend of mine died from a freak bacteriological event. Life goes on.
     
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    It saddens me to know that there are people who are so divorced from reality that they cannot accept the staggering death toll that guns are having on this nation. What makes it even more disturbing is that they believe that small children are "conspiring" by "faking their own deaths".

    While I support the 2nd Amendment I am a strong proponent for keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally disturbed and holding those who enable them to be armed fully accountable for the subsequent deaths and injuries.

    The world is dangerous enough as it is without enabling the mentally unbalanced to have access to lethal weapons.
     
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    I've fired an AR. My husband owns one.

    I'll pass it on to Jessica's parents that you have a friend who died from a freak bacteriological event. I'm sure that will make the loss of their 6 year old girl in her school bathroom much better.
     
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    I have to hold my temper. Even if I didn't know her parents (and I don't even know them well, but I do know them), I have a problem with people who minimize the deaths of children this way.
     
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    Thanks for the honest reply. Have you ever fired your husband's rifle inside a classroom? I can't even remember how many were killed anymore, but it doesn't matter.

    Have you considered why the authorities would require those doing the demolition on the school be sworn to silence about what they saw? Does that mean anything to you?

    Some data suggests that the internet activity at the school had not been active in many long months before the event.
     
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    What on Earth kind of question is that? No, I never fired a gun insides a classroom.

    Look, you think it was a hoax. I know for a fact it wasn't. You carry on using the deaths of little children for....some agenda, not sure. I'll stick with the truth. Better we end this discussion now.

    20 children died on that day, by the way. It matters to them and their families.
     
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    Asking that the crime scene not be exploited out of respect for those who were callously slaughtered is not a "conspiracy" except in the minds of those who cannot deal with reality.
     
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    I understand the appeals to emotion here, and certainly the emotional angle is very strong for those who lived in the area. The thing is, strong emotions by some do not require others to abandon the rational analysis. I'm really sorry anybody died, but the facts do not support the story told.

    Embrace your emotions, but do not expect others to reject cold analysis. That principle also applies to the Las Vegas shooting. People died, but the official story is intellectually bankrupt.
     
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    It takes a callous disregard for human life to ignore the pain and suffering of those who lost their nearest and dearest in these mass slaughters.

    But it becomes pathological to subsequently stand in the way of any measures that would prevent these acts of domestic terrorism from occurring again in the future.
     
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    It is your assumption that I callously disregard human life. ASSUME makes an ass out of you and me. You make a poor assumption, and in this case it lays the foundation for ad hominem attack and an appeal to emotion.

    It's not my fault the perpetrators of this event made so many tactical errors. Sloppy criminals is all, telling an impossible story. Some are so emotionally invested that they cannot or will not practice rational analysis. The story cannot be true, and I'm sorry people died.

    Welcome to the New Age In America.
     
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    Ironic that you accuse others of making ad homs while doing exactly that yourself.

    And yes it is entirely your responsibility for believing inane conspiracy theories while disparaging the pain and suffering of the bereaved.

    There is never any "rational analysis" when it comes to conspiracy theories. They are all based upon paranoia, fear, ignorance and gullibility.
     
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    Where have I disparaged the pain and suffering of the bereaved? Put up or shut up. I have not disparaged anybody's pain and suffering, yet you make that absurd claim. You come across as very desperate here to prove whatever point you're trying to prove.

    Rational analysis can be applied to any situation, and that is what analytical people do.

    Credulous people believe anything they are told, and they are not interested in learning facts. The shoe fits, and you should wear it.
     

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