Corona Virus Update

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by HereWeGoAgain, Mar 12, 2020.

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Those numbers do not correlate with what the CDC reports is actually happening.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html

    Are you quoting production predictions?

    As a comparison, SKorea was actually testing 10,000 patients a day a few weeks ago - at a time when they had tested more than 200,000 South Koreans. And, they had offered America help - which we declined.
     
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    Directly from CDC today. You'll get your test don't fear, me I'm not going anywhere close to a test facility unless I start running a high fever and have breathing issues. To each there own but the bottom line they going to treat it like the flu and if you get real bad it'll be like pneumonia all things you risk every year. More than likely you're going to have cold symptoms and I for one hope you don't get it. S. Korea's test had a 30% failure rate and that's not example, I would rather it be right and fda approved.
     
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  3. TurnerAshby

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    "At that time, likely very few if any. There are a lot of people in China."

    How can you say this? At that time they werent testing for it lol


    Also even more specificly 208,000 people fly to Wuhan every month, and it only to takes 1 patient to be infected and travel to cause a HUGE problem. Are you willing to say not 1 person hopped on a plane in that time?

    As far as deaths, doesn't the regular influenza also cause death? So a person dies, before they died they had fever chills etc. Why wouldn't the cause of death been labeled influenza? Because in December none of our doctors knew about Corona and since Corona and Influenza share many similar manifestations couldn't those deaths been improperly labeled influenza?
     
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    Right wing media projected COVID19 as purely a partisan plot against Trump.

    That came from Hannity and otheers at Fox as well as Rushbo and others.

    This was being proclaimed by Fox programming up through this last Friday.

    This IS an assault on America.
     
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    Cite please.
     
  6. HereWeGoAgain

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    They might rightly be sued for wrongful deaths later.

    Can the lawyer for this deceased grandfather who recklessly exposed himself to the virus, show he did so because of reports on Fox news or by Limbaugh,or claims by trump? Yes, I can definitely see class action lawsuits to this effect.
     
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  7. TurnerAshby

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    Yes we do, i mean if we come to a mutual understanding of the reason for testing that is. Testing is to help stop the spread of this right?

    Well if just 1 infected person got on an airplane in the month lag between China's 1st case and when they told WHO. That spread has a 3 month head start......
     
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    well when you into survival mode, human right/freedom of travel is secondary. irony we criticize china about it just a month ago.
     
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    Will I'll check for you, I was listening to an interview this afternoon from one of the head of the CDC. They've got two or three companies mass producing the first 500k arrived on site today.
     
  10. TurnerAshby

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    Also further here's a CDC virologist saying exactly what I've been saying for a week now......

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.c...s-influenza-in-U-S--ONz0SToSoE/share_amp.html
     
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    It's so ironic that Democrats who once told us to resist Trump are now taking more oppressive measures than at any point in the Trump regime. When it came to Liberty or Death, in this crucial moment we chose neither. We chose to whimper instead.
     
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    Totally agree. I would dare to say we've had 3 or 4x as many who have recovered on their own than we've counted with testing.
     
  13. TurnerAshby

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    Dr. Redfield of the CDC said it's possible Corona deaths were mistakenly diagnosed as influenza.....
     
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    explain exp. growth of the virus

     
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    This chart of the 1918 Spanish flu shows why social distancing works

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    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-1918-spanish-flu-shows-173312236.html
     
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    At that time, OUR tests had 100% failure rate. And, South Korea has been far more successful at flattening the curve than we have been.

    We're having medical staff drop out due to exposuer. We're running out of beds. We don't have enough ventilators (with Trump saying the states are on their own on that). Though "at risk" groups are hit the hardest, it does not mean that others don't end up in the hospital.

    CDC experts say comparing to flu is an absolutely horrible idea. One primary reason is that it does not help make the important decisions that need to be made.
     
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    I see all your issues with the Trump administrations handling of this. They may be legitimate but here's my question to you.....

    Trump will be gone either in November or in 4 years while the Chinese government will be able to sit on future viruses again and not tell the rest of us until it's too late so what do we do about China?
     
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    I suppose you are absolutely correct - what a fool I've been to question the godlike authoritah of our service dodging (along with his entire lineage), adulterous evangelical sycophant, what with his multiple wives and children and mistresses including playmates and porn stars, but hey, he doesn't drink and he's an Alpha so let's give him a mulligan on the chick habit, and hey, those casino bankruptcies from the very stable genius, well, neither you nor I could have done better with a 100+ million dollar starter package from daddy, eh? But we need a stronger Presidency.... You Sir are now ignored....
     
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    Are you going to answer my post where CDC Dr. Redfield says Corona cases have been misdiagnosed as influenza....

    Wonder if that's been happening since that month long lag time between China's 1st official case of Corona and when they informed the WHO?

    As a matter of fact apparently the 1st case is around November 17th....

    What's the likely hood that a foreign person flew to China contracted the disease flew home and was misdiagnosed with influenza as CDC Dr. Redfield says has happened?
     
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    Outstanding post.

    "When people aren't worried, that is when you should worry!"

    The factors look small, but personal behavior can make a gigantic difference in outcome.
     
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    I'm worried that people aren't acknowledging the lag time between China's first documented case and when they informed the rest of the world....
     
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    Please ignore me too. Thanks.
     

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