Corona Virus Update

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  1. kreo

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    The point is about dumb politicians, since they do not understand simple physics.
    Either they are really stupid or there is indeed a conspiracy.
     
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    Your "simple physics" are neither.
     
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    Well I do understand physics because I'm a physicist. And you have no idea what in the hell you are talking about.

    Frankly, considering the quarter-million dead and soon to double, this idiocy from the trump wing has become intolerable. Even in the face of hundreds of thousand of dead, they are still clinging to their delusions and psychopathic tin god.

    Get it straight: Trump is responsible for the greatest mass murder in US history and you are all complicit in that.
     
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    I do not know where did you learn physics

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure...dentified-in-in-fected-HRT-cell_fig1_12225613
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/cotton-fibre#:~:text=Cotton fibre diameter width mostly,by a waxy cuticle (Fig.

    coronavirus ~100 nm
    cotton fiber ~ 10 μm
    size of the cotton cell is about 100 times greater so coronavirus penetrates mask without problem
    An infected person who is wearing mask on the street by entering a store infects everyone around in 10 - 15 seconds.

    Because you claim yourself a physicist you are personally responsible for those who has been killed by coronavirus.
     
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    Live and learn, that is a spirit.
     
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    Well would tell the people of Key West that they don't have to wear the masks and risk their health by caching the virus? Fining $500 for not wearing the mask is a law there and they have to obey the laws or get sick and die. Maybe you think like South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem who doesn't like Donald Trump didn't think the masks were necessary and Trump caught the virus and had to go to the hospital. No one in immune and not even you or I are immune if you know what I mean. Trump could get it again if he doesn't watch it. Key West has their rules in place and whether you think they're stupid or not, That's the law. and That's all I'm going to say about it.
     
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    That law tells me that no one seriously cares about virus it is all about politics. That law is doing exactly opposite, it actually force people to increase concentration of the virus in public places, so more people get sick and die.
     
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    Fascinating!

    According to your "physics", wearing a mask will collect billions of virus particles until you step into a store when then the mask filled with COVID into everyone everyone in a store is infected within 10 to 15 seconds!

    Yet, at the same time, a mask allows viruses to penetrate the madk "without any problem"!

    Man, COVID is magical! COVID passes right through viruses AND yet blocks viruses to dump COVID all at once when someone steps into the store.

    (In seriously, 1 layer of thin cotton fibre is not particularly effective to stop a virus although better than nothing. But a glob of sneeze booger will be stopped pretty well by that, and that will make a big difference to reduce transmission!

    But why not spend $7 for a cloth mask and a $5 package of a dozen of micro-fine inserts inside your dressy cloth mask, or go for KN95?)
     
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    Well, as long as there is enough product for the billionaires and the top 1% millionaires, all is well in the world!

    Yes, naming it for Trump is quite appropriate. After all, the fact that the taxpayers paid for its $20,000 price tag is no reason Trump should not name it!
     
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    I was being facetious. ;-) But you do have good points

    As far as distribution goes.......Biden does have a plan. Trump does not and has as good as removed himself from anything pandemic.
     
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    It is actually very simple.
    When an infected person is breathing into the mask then part of the viruses penetrates mask, but many of the viruses get accumulated inside the mask. Mask essentially become a reservoir of the viruses with small open faucets on the surface. When an infected person enters e.g. the store he/she is spreading viruses accumulated in the mask with every breath. That in turn increases concentration of viruses inside the store. The greater concentration of viruses the more probability that healthy people get infected.

    I can understand why it is necessary to wear mask inside public places, but to make laws to force people to wear mask on the street is essentially to force people to get COVID-19
     
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    What would anyone tell the citizens of Key West, Florida that they didn't have to wear the masks. South Dakota Kristi Noem who is actually a ally of Trump would tell the Key West People that they don't have to.
     
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    As compared to walking around without a mask?

    How will viruses spread more with a mask than a person without a mask, where the naked viruses just go into other people without impediments from those pesky-old masks?

    It sounds like this viral "faucet" in masks that collects the viruses outside and then blasts the hapless store shoppers as the cruel mask user walks in the store, invecting everyone in "20 or 30 seconds"!

    Wow! So why aren't all the mask wearers in hospitals (who often have viruses including COVID) increases the concentration of viruses inside the rooms where our doctors and nurses go? All of us at hospitals from the moment of arrival at the site before we get out of the car until going home wear our masks. How does anyone survive!?

    Maybe the anti-maskers need to study their "physics" a bit more before telling people to not wear masks because that is what they believe infects everyone?
     
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    People, stop playing Holiday Inn scientist and just do what the actual experts tell us to do. It isn't a control issue. It is the best information we have on how to minimize risk and save as many lives as possible.

    Wearing a mask will not give you Covid.
     
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    The first Americans could receive a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as Dec. 11, the chief scientific adviser for the U.S. government's vaccine program said on Sunday. "Within 24 hours from the approval, the vaccine will be moving and located in the areas where each state will have told us where they want the vaccine doses," Dr. Moncef Slaoui, part of the "Operation Warp Speed" vaccine program, told NBC's "Meet the Press."
     
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    There will probably be folks that refuse to take the vaccine , the same way they refuse to wear masks.


    Science might have to create a way to give those folks a
    responsible" pill. before this pandemic is done. When beliefs override reason and science........ one has something akin to a Banana Republic. Not a progressive forward thinking nation.
     
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    Just thinking the other night, I wondered how high the pile would be if we stacked all of the dead bodies from US Covid deaths.

    We will have over 500,000 deaths before this is over. That means the pile would be nearly 100 miles high. Right now we ONLY have a 50-mile high pile of bodies.

    Commercial passenger planes fly at about 6 or 7 miles high.
    The space station is about 250 miles up. So it would reach almost half way to the space station.

    What did trump jr say, the deaths amount to nothing? A 50 mile high pile of bodies is nothing.
     
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    Wonder if Don Jr attitude will change , since he too, has now been afflicted with the virus. Odds? Wouldn't bet on it.
     
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    In that case people should not wear masks on the street.
    Your experts have no brains, so we cannot listen to them.
     
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    Sorry, I'm confused. Why are children required to jump up and down for 12 hours in a pandemic? Does the jumping prevent transmission of the virus?
     
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    Except that when a lockdown is mandated by law, they won't have a choice. We didn't have a choice. We broke the rules at our peril, and with a high chance of being caught. Police and military were everywhere, and if they didn't catch you your neighbours reported you.
     
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    Value judgements aside, this is why it must be MANDATORY. No one but the Japanese are going to do it voluntarily.
     
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    So who should you listen to???? Politicians?? ( forget that one), advice & opinions on social media??.......high risk.

    It is a problem when there is no effective leadership........ and the experts are dismissed as dumb (lacking brains)

    ergo : the current crisis.
     
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    Where was this?
     

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