Corona Virus Update

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I believe that.

    I doubt there is ANY factor that would cause big business to voluntarily take a hit in order to avoid the deaths of workers.

    That's why we have OSHA, air and water regulation, laws against slavery, minimum wage, laws against sexual exploitation, laws on overtime, unimployment insurance, etc, etc..

    These just aren't natural behaviors that come to mind when a corporation focses on the fundamental requirement of maximizing short term profit.

    Besides, corporations are NOT humans - one can't expect them to care - a piece of paper can not care.

    Don't give in to becoming a piece of paper.
     
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  2. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    That piece of paper for example was/is crucial to getting the masks to the doctors. And here's something equally concerning to me as we deal with the economic slowdown: Food rationing and starvation. In trying to avoid one problem, we've created a few more.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That piece of paper did NOT solve the mask and ventilator problem.

    And, to the extent that it caused Trump or others to sacrifice best practices for business success it risked the lives of Americans.

    There really is no justification for that direction. The lives of Americans trump dollars.
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    You're losing lives AND dollars. That's the point I've been trying to make the last 48 hours. The strategy isn't working, but what it is doing, is it's going to give us a new challenge once we do overcome Corona. I'd rather have healthy people work, confirmed cases quarantined and have the system make the needed steps of recovery we need it to make.
     
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    IN PRAISE OF CHLOROQUINE: For the drugs potential to help stop the COVID-19/Wuhan virus but mostly for the sensible Trump Administration decision to provide “regulatory relief for the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.”

    Compassionate De-Regulation! We’re doing it for the elderly, homeless and disadvantaged.
     
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    You have no idea whether what we're doing is working.

    And, we have no way ot telling whether an individual is healthy, because we have nowhere NEAR the number of tests that would require. People are communicable for about 2 weeks before they have symptoms (said over and over by everyone).
     
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    that would take a book, and not worth the investment of my time.
     
  9. AmericanNationalist

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    Yes I do. We've initiated this plan on March 10th, right? Or around then. It's now March 19th. It's only gone up more and more. And especially as people continue to stay in(which in Cali and soon to be all over this country in the saddest display for Lady Liberty it's now by diktat.).

    It has thus far failed to flatten the curve. And the more time goes by, the more that argument will fail to hold sway on an imprisoned masses.
     
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    How do you know it's not working?
     
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    Hurry everybody get on board with the new DNC talking points, now it's partial travel restrictions, yeap the same one T called racist... You guys are too much.
     
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    See above: We started about a week ago. It's now March 19th, and we have increases in cases. Which they've excused as "we're running more tests.". But the new Cali diktat, should give you a scary hint: This isn't working. The numbers don't back it up. Anywhere. It's only China. The same country that's confirmed now to have lied to us about the crisis. You think they're telling the truth now?
     
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    Our data is all screwed up.
    Look at the other countries.
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/infection-trajectory-flattening-the-covid19-curve/
     
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    If you ranked countries based on the number of 'active cases' (i.e., those where the victims of the virus have neither recovered nor died), based on the reported numbers, the rankings for the top 10 countries with the most active number of cases would be as follows:

    1- Italy: 33,190 active cases
    2- Spain: 16,139 active cases
    3- Germany: 15,161 active cases
    4- USA: 14,021 active cases
    5- Iran: 11,134 active cases

    6- France: 9,328 active cases
    7- China: 6,569 active cases
    8- South Korea: 6,325 active cases
    9- Switzerland: 4,164 active cases
    10- UK: 3,060 active cases

    ranked based on the active cases reported in the site below:
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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    Based on the mortality rate of the virus in closed/concluded cases, the rankings among the countries with the most reported cases of the virus, would be as follows (in order of the least mortality rate to worst):

    1- China: 4%
    1- South Korea: 4%
    3- Iran: 18%
    4- France: 22%
    5- Germany: 28%

    6- Italy: 43%
    7- Spain: 43%
    8- USA: 63%
    9- UK: 69%
    10- Switzerland: 74%

    p.s.
    You can go to each country in the site below and find these numbers:
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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    New cases today include people who were exposed before March 10. It takes 2 weeks to become symptomatic, plus some days of getting sick enouh to call a docter. Also, we're not just going to see this cut off in one day.

    Plus, this is biology. This is human behavior.

    On what day will ditto heads strt practicing social distancing?

    How about Hannity watchers? How about the millions who watched Trish Reagan on Fox business and her rant this last Friday that this is no more than a Democratic plot?
     
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    That description is a perfect fir for your criminal IMPOTUS.
     
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    Utter nonsense!

    Your criminal IMPOTUS does have the power to declare a State of National Emergency!
     
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    Interesting concept so I pulled up these two maps for a side by side comparison.

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    While it is far from being a perfect match, I would not expect it to be either, there does appear to be some correlation between areas that have higher rates of Malaria and lower rates of Covid-19 and vice versa.

    Let us hope this treatment is effective because it is cheap and widely available.
     
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    More bovine excrement!

    The Obama administration would have been on top of this from Day One!
     
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  21. AmericanNationalist

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    Sure, they would have. I'm not denying that. I'm saying this stupid plan WAS their plan. After everyone begged Trump to do something, he basically dusted off the plan that's seen in the 7-page document. That's why I said de-facto we now have a Democratic Regime.
     
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    That is not a proper way to measure whether the plan is working. The virus has an incubation period of a few days and thus the known infections are going to lag behind the true number of infections. Plus, the day you use as when the plan went into place is not taking into account that the quarantine plan was input in a patchwork style, at different days and with different orders.

    We will not know whether the plan works until 2-3 weeks after it starts to work.
     
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    I never called that partial travel restriction racist. If you want to use the word ban, that's fine, but you should recognize that flights from that area of China to the US still took place (they just couldn't include non-American citizens).
     
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    I would be curious to delve into South Korea and see whether they apply a more stringent definition to the full recovered. Based on all the reporting that I have seen, they handled the infection and mortalities much better than China.
     
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