Corrupt Australian Government Sells Innocent Schapelle Corby For Political Expediency

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  1. Simbainoz

    Simbainoz Banned

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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but Bambang Sugiarto was NOT Schapelle's defence lawyer, he was the Head of the Bali Police Drug Squad.

    The link I provided was to the ‘60 Minutes’ segment on human lie detectors, and their assessment of Schapelle's interview with Liz Hayes. One couldn't pick it either way, but the other was convinced that Schapelle was telling the truth.

    The issue of CCTV footage did not come up in that segment.
     
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    the only tests NEEDED. And it was dope IN HER BAG.
     
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    If you spent less time spitting your venom, at practically everyone and everything, and spent more time looking at the real facts in this case, The Expendable Project being an excellent place to start, you might realise that it is actually those who believe that Schapelle is guilty who are the intellectually challenged ones.

    When well researched and documented truth is offered, and people just turn their noses up at it, and flippantly dismiss it as rubbish and lies, and when these same people then wish bloody murder upon Schapelle, despite overwhelming evidence that she is innocent, it paints a pretty ugly picture of them as individuals.

    Oh, so the baby took the dingo?? I thought it was the other way around.
     
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    Right, so why bring it up if it said nothing on my original point? Oh, and just on human lie detectors, you realise that they are not accurate right? They can only make suggestions regarding features, and are probably as effective as an actual polygraph test, which is just slightly better then if they flipped a coin.
     
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    your lies are not willing you any friends here.
     
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    I think you should apply for the job of a Judge in an Indonesian court, you would fit right in - Find everyone guilty on the flimsiest of evidence and send them all to jail for life, or just shoot them.

    Who knows, you might even be able to beat Judge Linton Sirait's record of 500 convictions in 500 drug related trials, 501 including Schapelle.

    Just think of the work you could create for the firing squad, they would love you; you would be their hero.
     
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    your abuse is just because i refuse to believe or support your lies...its ok i forgive ya.
     
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    Not here to make friends, just here to promote the truth, to anyone who is interested.

    I have to confess though that I do like Makedde and Uncle Meat.
     
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    Your "truth" and the REAL TRUTH seem to be very different.
     
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    Exactly efjay, I honestly never thought I would agree with you but I do.

    We are not interested in the so called "truth" in the conviction, but the REAL TRUTH as to what happened.

    Now that you have one right maybe your posts will not show the tell tale signs of someone who is desperate, like saying "baby took my dingo" and willing instead of winning, and truth instead of anti-drug bull.
     
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    Why is it that neither you, nor anyone from the “guilty” camp, is prepared to respond to this comment above? I think I know. It’s an inconvenient truth, based on sound logic, that you cannot respond to, so you sweep it under the carpet.

    On the subject of human lie detectors, I have no idea how good or bad they are, although they are used to solve crimes. However, one and a half out of two did think that Schapelle was telling the truth, when she said that she willingly opened her boogie-board bag for inspection without being asked to, that she had not acted suspiciously in any way, and that she denied owning the marijuana. This ties in perfectly with what I said above, that she would not ask, on numerous occasions, for the CCTV footage, if it was going to prove that she was lying.
     
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    My TRUTH is based on years of research into the case and sharing in the research of others, who have likewise put in years of research into the case. My TRUTH is based on having known Schapelle and her family for over 25 years. My TRUTH is based on having lived and breathed this case in every spare moment I have had, since the case began.

    What is your supposed REAL TRUTH based on??
     
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    More of this???

    Your crusade is only further sinking corby, you do realize that dont you?
     
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    The truth of what has happened in this case, and what continues to happen, is immense, and I could not attempt to present it all on this forum.

    However, The Expendable Project (www.expendable.tv) is doing this, which is why I encourage everyone to go check it out. It will take time to look at everything, and more is being added all the time, but it is the most comprehensive website on the case ever created, and it does contain new material, backed up by documentation, as well as exclusive interviews with people who know what they are talking about. Eventually, it will feature a full length documentary that ties in all the reports and the interviews.

    Do I know who put the drugs into Schapelle’s bag? NO, because if I did I would report them to the authorities and get Schapelle exonerated. What I do know, beyond a shadow of doubt, is that Schapelle did not put them in there, and neither did anyone else in her family. For me, this is a TRUTH that shines more brightly than the sun.
     
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    I think that stink is what your full of efjay. Its called projecting when you blame others for your own failings. Why dont you answer the question instead of rambling OT.
     
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    We know who put the drugs in her bag...she did.
    You keep pushing your website saying it has the truth...What it has is an agenda and the "truth" it presents is coloured by that agenda.
     
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    YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION OF THE WORD TRUTH.....

    Answer my question
     
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    Once again, you evade the issue below!

    Schapelle's conviction was based, primarily, on the testimony of Customs Officer Gusti Winata. This was the prosecution's secondary evidence, which they needed to secure a conviction. If he was lying, they had no secondary evidence, and Schapelle could not have been convicted.

    If Schapelle was telling the truth, the Customs Officer had to be lying. The fact that his lies were backed up by lies from others, is immaterial. Schapelle's testimony was also backed up by a number of witnesses, yet this was totally ignored by the Judges.
     
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    I notice you evade this question as well. If you are the expert and I am the fool, prove it!
     
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    The TRUTH... Not YOUR AGENDA.
    I have evaded nothing i just dont think its necessary to go into your childish and laughable conspiracy theories.
     
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    Firstly, it is not my website, it one that I have assisted with.

    Secondly, yes, it does have an agenda - to expose the corruption, the lies and the cover ups by the Howard Government, to demonstrate Schapelle's obvious innocence, to pressure the Gillard Government into calling for a full and independent enquiry into the case, and to pressure the Gillard Government into properly negotiating Schapelle's release on humanitarian grounds - nothing wrong with that.
     
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    There IS something wrong with that. For starters there is the fact she is guilty of being a drug smuggler!
    There is no need to waste aussie taxpayer money on an enquiry into a court case held in Indonesia, and we wont even get into the ludicrous corby is innocent statement. But thanks for admitting that the website you are pushing is biased and has an agenda.
     
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    You evade constantly.

    I have presented my credentials, to demonstrate that, by now, I should have a pretty good idea of what I am talking about.

    You make flippant comments like "my comments are childish and laughable", yet you provide no credentials for yourself to give credibility to what you say.
     
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    Your "credentials" mean nothing.. You say you are a friend of the family, if that is true it would be a fair assumption that you would be biased. I and others in this thread have shot down your website and your laughable claims..That you keep coming back for more shows that you yourself do not and have not considered the other side. If you had you would clearly see that the simple truth is that corby is in jail because of her own actions.
     
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    There IS a need for an enquiry into what happened in Australia, and it is well worth taxpayers money.

    Nothing wrong with the website having an agenda. The Howard Government certainly had an agenda when they decided to sacrifice Schapelle Corby for commercial and political expediency.
     
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