Costs Of Illegal Immigration...

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still need a TIN, which is not supposed to go to illegals.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    Immigration costs American taxpayer hundreds of billions of dollars in medical costs, and results in traffic, crowded roads, smog, wasted petrol while the car is idling in traffic, and car accidents.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/health-care/190962-effect-immigration-hospitals.html#post4016298

    http://www.politicalforum.com/budget-taxes/190963-infrastructure-costs-immigration.html#post4016308

    Do not forget the cost of private schooling to escape underperforming school districts overburdened with the children of minorities.
     
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    LOL...What happened after the last amnesty that was given?
     
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    Another cost that most people are unaware of is illegal aliens murder 12 Americans per day. Yes, per day.

    Thats approx. 49,000 since sept. 11 2001

    That dwarfs the death tolls of the supposed war on terror.

    ...and no, this does not include those killed by drunk drivers or other accidents caused by illegal aliens. The 12 is flat out terrorism, murder.

    Accidental deaths and drunks cause an additional 13 deaths a day.


    Secure the borders, now. Demand it people, from your congressmen.
     
  5. Clint Torres

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    I see there is a lot of fear and cower in people. If the Canadians and Mexicans are killing that many people each day, we should be checking IDs on everyone who goes to the bank and the checkpoints, and let all US Citizens cary guns so they can ease their paranoia and cowardly fears.
     
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    Whether or not you call it fear and paranoia, it is still the fact of the matter.

    Illegal aliens murder more US citizens than the war on terror.
     
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    Besides the 12 that are killed every day by illegal aliens. In one state alone they have a average of 1 American being kidnapped by illegal aliens,

    the Illegal aliens do not just cost the American tax payers by the cost of medical and roads. but in every aspect of our lives things cost more because the demand is more.

    homes in area's are worth less because of the flooding in of lower standards by the illegal immigrants.

    Because of the illegal immigration it gives the drug cartel a easier way to bring drugs into the U.S.

    We need to demand that the borders be enforced, and that we start setting a example. and start deporting everybody who comes into contact with our government in any way. I don't care if its for something harmless.

    By them being in the U.S. they are breaking the LAW. so just because they are not going out and committing murder every day. does not change the fact that they are breaking the law every day they are in the United States.

    If We are suppose to be the land of dreams then we need to continue to enforce our laws.

    We are losing the "Land of Dreams" and becoming the "Land of illegals and drug smugglers"
     
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    It may be different where you live, but in many places the the poor immigrants pack their whole big extended families into little apartments, or squeeze three families into a small house. Even though immigrants have lower incomes, they still are able to outbid the previous people from homes and apartments by stuffing five wage earners into a dwelling meant for no more than two. Southern California is especially bad and completely unaffordable because so many hispanics have flooded into the area and there is not enough room for everyone. Even the bad neigborhoods filled with poverty are overpriced. Who would pay 300000USD for a tiny crumbling home built in the 1960's in a neigborhood where nearly half the people do not speak english and with frequent gang violence/ shootings, and failed school districts? Buying a modest house in the better neigborhoods will generally cost at least 450000USD, which does not even include a real backyard.
     
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    From a speech professor Elizabeth Warren gave in speech at Berkeley:
    The inflation adjusted cost of housing for a family without children between 1983 to 2003 increased 50%. During that same time period the inflation adjusted cost of housing for a family with children increased 100%.
    Families are paying more money for good school districts. Families without children do not have to buy houses in good school districts, and so they can have a wider pool of homes to select from.


    With school districts becoming overwhelmed by the large influx of poor minorities, good school districts are a shrinking resource, and it is costing middle class families a large ammount of money.
     
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    I didn't really mean that the house prices have gone down because of this. but the standard of living in these areas have gone down.

    Where I live. I'm not affected by it like most people in California are. but I do some work in Los Angeles, and other lower income areas. you have business going out of business. because they have a overhead that can't compete with these backyard illegal businesses.

    You have people cooking in their front yard. that is not checked to make sure they are clean. this causing food places to go out of business. You have people selling clothes out of their front yard without permits or anything else causing clothing stores to go out of business.

    They have lowered the standard of living where a person who actually works a regular job is at risk of losing their job because the business can't compete because of all these illegal businesses that are operated by illegal aliens.
     
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    AZ Wildfires Caused By Illegal Immigrants...
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    McCain blames some Arizona wildfires on illegal immigrants
    June 19, 2011 -- McCain says evidence that illegals started fires is "substantial"
     
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    Most of what you said is very accurate.

    It gos 2 ways . The illegals and the property owners are both to blame.

    In my area there was an area of town that was a really nice area. Everyone from successfully people to retires lived there. It was primarily white ( 85%) and the rest blacks. About 4 years ago one of the properties sold. The buyer was a foreign from Asia. The new owner became very cheap,so cheap the folks that could pay the rent moved. That caused the owner to start renting to cheaper people. Mainly Mexicans. This created a chain reaction and the other 3 property's fell to the same level. At first the city thought it was just a Hispanic community,but later found out it was ridden with illegals.

    Today the city will not send a police officer,firefighter or city employee to that area by themselves. Thats how unsafe it has gotten there.

    The crazy part is the legal one harbor the illegal ones.
     
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    I don't fear and cower, nor do I sleep with a bible and guns in my jammies. In the USA, the only real threat are those domestic terrorist or legal aliens who hate the government so much they fly planes into IRS building in Austin, shoot up students because of bullying or tenure, and blowup Fed buildings in OK. They are the real threat to the safety of the USA. They look alien American, and could be your neighbor, but they have an agenda of intitlement and will kill anyone who opposes their views. Some even call themselves sovergien citizens. I bet the soverigen citizen parents of that kid in AZ who shot up the people in the supermarket are real proud of their son's actions.
     
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    I live with illegal alien Mexican gangbangers all around me. They are the problem for me, not domestic terrorists.
     
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    Death to Mexico. And if they come here, then death to America.
     
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    Providing goverment services costs more money for each person in the USA than waht someone is able to earn from working a minimum wage job.

    I say the USA has imported enough poverty and crime from Mexico.

    As soon as poor minorities sneak in and have children, the liberals want everyone else to take care of them.

    Whatever the long term consequences may be, letting in other races to your country is irreversible.

    I do not think people actually realize how many poor minorities actually live in their country's ghettos, or actually have any idea of what it is like to live in desperate poverty. This people are going to VOTE, and they are not going to vote for the same policies you are.

    You all need to take a good look at what is going on in Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, and Atlanta. This will be the future of your country.
     
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    Very well said.

    Liberals will never see the impact of poor minorities into the US. They can't see the forest because of the trees.

    Fact is there is NO budget for poor minorities in fluxed into the US. Its only money spent.
     
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    Yes there are Americans who are a threat to the U.S. but illegal aliens are responsible for 12 American deaths a day.

    They are also responsible for a kidnapping every 23 hours in Arizona. so they are a huge threat to the U.S. and to the security of our nation and our people.

    As long as we have ways for illegal aliens to come into the country we have a way for terrorist to come into our country.

    Illegal aliens have caused more deaths in the U.S. then any terrorist threat by a American has ever caused.

    But the left cares less about the deaths that Illegal Aliens cause because they know that once they push through amnesty they will get 20 million new votes to elect the incompetent idiots back into office.
     
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    The state of California's legal system and prisons are being overwhelmed by the explosive growth in the low income hispanic population.

    According to Katherine Feinstein, the presiding judge of the San Francisco Superior Court, service has become slower and waiting times longer. An uncontested divorce now typically takes six months, and is soon expected to take over 18 months when the expected budget cuts are fully implemented. A typical lawsuit can now take several years to go to trial. Ms. Feinstein says that number could soon stretch to five years. A report by the American Bar Association found that most states have cut funding by around 10-15%. The court caseload in New York, which has seen a large influx of poor immigrants, has increased by 30%, even as the pay for judges has been frozen for 12 years. To make up for the lack of adequate funding, courts are imposing higher frees on litigants, threatening the idea of equal rights to justice.

    The state of Georgia has also seen a large influx of hispanics. Even with the increased burden of criminal cases, court funds in the state have fallen by 25%. Criminal cases now routinely take more than two years to come to trial. This, of course, means that jails are full of innocent people waiting for trial.

    California now has 33 prisons, not counting several other prison "camps". The explosion in the inmate numbers in the 1990's increased the cost to tax payers. Prison spending went from about 4% of the state budget in the mid 1980's to 10% today, now exceeding state university funding! This has meant overcrowding in the prisons. A federal ruling, whic hwas upheld by the Supreme Court, has found conditions "cruel adnf unusual", and requires the state to release 30,000 inmates within the next two years. Only 28.4% of the prison population is white! 40% of the prisoners are Latino, and that number is expected to increase rapidly as all the latino children, who currently constitute 52% of the states young, grow older. Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites. In California, about one third of the hispanics live below or just above the poverty line.
     
  22. Third Mexican Empire

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    Source please?
     
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    What do you want the source for.

    1 city had more than 1 person kidnapped every 23 hours?
    http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...-says-phoenix-second-kidnapping-capital-worl/ you will have to read through a bit but you will find it.

    here is another http://www.newsmax.com/US/immigration-arizona-crime-kidnappings/2010/04/27/id/357099

    and another. http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/feb/mexican-cartels-make-phoenix-kidnap-capital

    and another. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1



    or the illegal Invasion has caused more deaths than Iraq?
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=10663

    would you like anymore?
     
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    To make sure you don't try to pass lies for truth
     
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    Death to Mexico.
     

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