Could G-d be planning another Exodus? But this time from the USA????

Quote Originally Posted by OhZone View Post
"This is sad. While it is true that Jews such as the Rothschilds hold a lot of power in the economies of the world doesn't mean that all Jews are to blame.
Likewise there are many Jews in influential positions in our government and have done a lot of "mischief".
The ordinary masses will however be looked upon as accomplices and therefore be persecuted.
Unfortunately it is these people who will leave while the ones that should go will stay."

DennisTate says:
"On that note…. I have got to ask the author of this statement if he ever had a near death or out of the body experience?"

What does that have to do with what I said?
But ...for your info:
No I have not nearly died, but have had OBE.

 

hint ... I'm not in Uzbekistan

 

Wow! What a fascinating explanation for these scriptures. I have never read this theory before Cupid Dave.... this makes a lot of sense....... Howard Storm asked the beings of light why the holocaust had been allowed to occur and he got an interesting reply:

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

 

Wow!

I find that people who have had an OBE or NDE seem to get an amazing surege in IQ and understanding of the big picture.

Actually... I meant I was going to ask Michael Hulmes if had had an OBE or NDE?

.... If I remember correctly... yes.... he did have an OBE... and he made some other statements that are fascinating!

 

This whole incident was written out 4000 years ago, when the "crucifixion" upon a wooded altar of Isaac was stopped to spare him, and the "old sheep" took his place:

Gen. 22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him, (an uncastrated male sheep), a ram (also, figuratively, [ayil: the political chiefs]; symbolic of the European Jewish rabbi), caught in a thicket (of the Nazi persecution to come), by his horns, (or, his power: [symbolic Dictionary]):
and Abraham, (in analogy to God), went and took, (in absence of a lamb of God to come), the ram, (i.e.; the Jewish leadership in Europe of the 20th century to come), and offered him, (as a Burnt Offering, the sin offering, i.e.; the Jewish people, themselves: [Exodus 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, "Thus says the Lord, Israel is My son, my first born."]), up (in holocaust) for a burnt offering (in the crematoriums to come, the Burnt Offering of Israel, the chosen son of God in the stead of (Isaac? Ishmael?), his (only) son, (in analogy, as was Christ offered for their salvation).

 

Yes…. and the Book of Jasher adds intriguing details about the ram that was offered instead of Isaac/ Yitzhaq.

http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/22.htm

"And Ishmael boasted of himself to Isaac, saying, I was thirteen years old when the Lord spoke to my father to circumcise us, and I did according to the word of the Lord which he spoke to my father, and I gave my soul unto the Lord, and I did not transgress his word which he commanded my father.
And Isaac answered Ishmael, saying, Why dost thou boast to me about this, about a little bit of thy flesh which thou didst take from thy body, concerning which the Lord commanded thee?" (vs 42,43)

http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/23.htm
"At that time the Lord appeared unto Abraham, and called to him, from heaven, and said unto him, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him, for now I know that thou fearest God in performing this act, and in not withholding thy son, thine only son, from me.
And Abraham lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, a ram was caught in a thicket by his horns; that was the ram which the Lord God had created in the earth in the day that he made earth and heaven.
For the Lord had prepared this ram from that day, to be a burnt offering instead of Isaac.
And this ram was advancing to Abraham when Satan caught hold of him and entangled his horns in the thicket, that he might not advance to Abraham, in order that Abraham might slay his son.
And Abraham, seeing the ram advancing to him and Satan withholding him, fetched him and brought him before the altar, and he loosened his son Isaac from his binding, and he put the ram in his stead, and Abraham killed the ram upon the altar, and brought it up as an offering in the place of his son Isaac.
And Abraham sprinkled some of the blood of the ram upon the altar, and he exclaimed and said, This is in the place of my son, and may this be considered this day as the blood of my son before the Lord.
And all that Abraham did on this occasion by the altar, he would exclaim and say, This is in the room of my son, and may it this day be considered before the Lord in the place of my son; and Abraham finished the whole of the service by the altar, and the service was accepted before the Lord, and was accounted as if it had been Isaac; and the Lord blessed Abraham and his seed on that day." (vs 68-75)

 

No way all Jews from around the world move to Israel. MOST American Jews don't want to move to Israel and many don't even want to go there and have 0 connection to it aside from historical.

 

Under the present conditions……. you are clearly correct…… but conditions can change!

It is unwise to under estimate our opponents and President Putin might just be able to convince some major Islamic economic powers and even China to join him in his desire to devalue the USA dollar. If this happens….. then the hurricane of money that Pastor Shane Warren was shown could well occur……… and those divisions that already exist with North American culture and society could be strained to the breaking point!

 

Rev Anarchist began a discussion that I think…..fits very well with this possibility?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/381229-jesus-returns-2017-a.html
Jesus returns in 2017,,,,

But……… my theology indicates that the coming of the next Moshiach - Messiah is not necessarily the Second Coming of Yeshua - Jesus but instead could be the coming of a modern - human Moshiach ben Ephrayim or "Cyrus" type of political leader who deeply believes in freedom of religion………… and for the Jewish people the ultimate expression of freedom of religion for them which is the Rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple Complex to fit with Ezekiel chapter 40 -48.

For Breslovian Chassidic Jews a modern "Cyrus" would tend to support the return of the remains of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov to somewhere in Israel.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Rabbi-Nachman-to-Jerusalem/237417132962460
Bring Rabbi Nachman to Jerusalem

Although I disagree with him on many issues…… Canada's P. M. Stephen Harper could certainly set the stage for a modern "Cyrus."

Notice post #6 for the full article…..
http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

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I just saw a five minute video that is beginning to make some sense out of the why ……. that this may well happen?!

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/ben-shapiro-just-delivered-one-big-wake-up-call-to-american-jewry/

Ben Shapiro Just Delivered one big Wake up Call to American Jewry

………..For the record……. I really think that Ben Shapiro really gets to the heart of the issue at the four minute mark of his film……. Jews remember well how offensive we Christians have been in the past….. and are skeptical of what may on the surface appear like positive changes!

 

But….. many successful film projects have at least one good con artist in there starring as a villain!

The idea of any sort of "Exodus USA" would fit in reasonably well with…….


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...geddon-could-bring-world-out-recession-2.html
Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

 

"Could G-d be planning another Exodus?"....don't give the magic unproven invisible friend in the sky too much credit, after all, he's not even talented enough to cure cancer (and if he could, but won't, then he's not moral enough for me to follow.) How about you?

 

Sounds like Netanyahu has been at it again!!!!

 

Wow, can't wait for them to start doing DNA on Muslim Arabs!!!! A whole lot of them either married Jewish women or were converts ( forced). Maybe that would solve the Israeli-Palestinian problem once and for all. I know at least 10 families here in Cairo who intermarried with Jewish women.

 

The problem here is no one knows for sure what God wants, leaving us to rely upon assumption and speculation which I argue is more a reflection of our own views/beliefs. Perhaps God created the universe and walked away from his creation like some Deists believe? Perhaps God does not exist and all us theists are fooling ourselves? As God is a theological intangible there is nothing we can do but to assume and speculate.

 

Basically……… you have got a good point………… I personally am in no position to offer any type of dogmatic idea on what G-d has planned.

But……… if what Mellen Benedict was shown about a nearly infinite number of Big Bang type events occurring in the past is basically accurate…….. then a pretty powerful case can be presented that a Creator who has invested infinite time and effort in the creation……. would perhaps be one of the most emotionally connected intelligent life forms in the universe/multiverse?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...most-emotional-being-universe-multiverse.html
Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
Which type of project will you tend to get more involve in?

A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

 

This really makes sense that if America is hit by disasters....... without a world policeman the world gets much worse very quickly.


http://z3news.com/w/complete-destruction-america/

I Saw the Complete Destruction of America

 

Yes.........… indeed your analysis is correct Sir........ and................. I think we may perhaps have found the perfect co-conspirator!!!!!!!!!!!! (Or...… will he rebel and be the guy who prevents this diabolical plan from bearing fruit)????????!

I hereby submit my audition for the role of "Cyrus" as explained by Isaiah chapter 45, by Eporu Ronald Alfred of Uganda and by Orthodox Jewish scholar Yair Davidiy.

I wish to initiate the ARTISITIC division of the USA into two nations......… one nation is very very very very very pro-Israel.............. and the other ARTISTIC nation........ not so much!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

...................... (please scroll down to post #6 to see the full text of the message by Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred, who incidentally I strongly suspect from his writings had a near death experience during a bout with malaria which helps to account for a Christian theologian having off the scale insight on the subject of a modern Cyrus)!

.................IF...… my audition for the role of Cyrus is accepted by somebody..... then you have to put up with my desire to set up one of the posters here on this forum..... as the metaphorical Dauphin...… somebody who I think may have been my son in a past life...… AboveAlpha?!

 

One possible way to prevent a repeat of the war of 1812 is to integrate one or two USA states with Canada................ and integrate one or two Canadian provinces with America?????!

For example.........… one possible state in which it may become legal for an American citizen to serve either in the USA military or police...… or in the Canadian military or police......… is Alaska?????!

If nothing else...… with virtually unlimited financing............. this could at the minimum be accomplished through Hollywood at the artistic level.........…

If ten percent of Canadian military and police personnel in some areas were also American citizens......… this could greatly decrease the probability of Canadian soldiers ever being willing to fire on American soldiers?!!!!

Dual citizenship would be one of the benefits and requirements for these American soldiers and police who serve somewhere in Canada, some of the time..... and for the Canadian soldiers or police who serve somewhere in America.... some of the time!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/374768566052584/

Alaskan irredentists

 

I don't see any reason for Jewish people to feel unsafe living in the United States.

 

At the moment you are correct but.............. if immigration from the Islamic world is greatly increased over the next decade or two..... the political climate in America could be radically altered.

At this time......… women in Sweden are not exactly safe:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=409317&page=2&p=1065538575#post1065538575

This video elaborates on one aspect of this topic that we might not want to look at objectively.

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/t...h-israel-against-the-growth-of-radical-islam/

 

But....... isn't every physician in North America being in a sense tested by how they react to articles such as the one by Dr. Rayburn Goen M. D. who was 87 years of age when he wrote......"New Nutrition Paradigm?"

I am of the opinion that that article by the late Dr. Goen is like an inheritance..... worth millions and even billions of dollars...... that has been passed down to all seven billion residents of this third rock...... but we depend on the character and integrity of medical professionals to be like our family lawyer..... and they have to make us aware of the value of what we have received?!?!

http://www.rayburngoenmd.blogspot.ca/

 

i need time to digest all these good, juicy information..loving it

 

i am caution about that light being...if this is from Jesus, he would say His name. i feel he's avoding it. i have doubt about that year 2185 too. However, what he said about America, is VERY TRUE. My guess is that the spiritual realm, both the good and bad sides, think and feel the same about America as shown in the article above.Except that God still has mercy on America but the bad side is really dispise her, which is ironic, because the leaders of America serve the bad side and their master hate them.

 

I have to admit that I was pretty cautious about the being of light myself and spent about five years scratching my head wondering whether or not the being of light could well be Satan appearing as an angel of light?!?!

2Corinthians 11:14

It is also interesting that scripture states that the fallen angels / demons........ fear The Ancient of Days the Father and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus far far far far far more than any of us do.

A decent case can be presented that when a fallen angel is allowed to appear to somebody.... .they actually tell the truth when they lie....... For example......


Genesis 3:4

There is a truly high element of truth in this statement....... in my opinion far far far more truth than most of us Christians tend to imagine.

John 10:34

This tendency for fallen angels to tell the truth........ when they lie.... would fit well with:

James 2:19