After the massive defeat of last week, it is pretty easy for y'all to realize that the USA will never have a conservative president ever again. The key to Republican success in the future lies with the Catholic electorate -- Obama even carried the Catholic vote if I'm not mistaken, despite a two-year-long carpet-bombing by Conservatives... Republicans could learn follow values from Continental European Conservatives: inclusivity, equality of opportunity, solidarity (to a certain degree) and personal responsibility. The last one is very important, since it is absolutely missing from American politics. Y'all have noticed all the disturbing posts on PF.com -- Republicans seem to blame "the other side" for their loss. LMAO! Never witnessed such a bunch of bad losers. And nobody likes sore losers, they tend to like not even themselves... In essence, the Republicans must tune-down their Conservative rethoric 'cuz it is leading solely to electoral defeat. The voters are always right. Anyways, Republicans will need to adjust their platform or they will never deliver an "El Presidente" ever again. I mean... seriously guys! The only black man to be found at Romney's HQ on election night was this one...
Well, when you are talking about Conservative party in Europe can you give me some example, because now in mind are coming to me the Spanish Conservative parties and they are the same thing like the Republicans. But also I have to think that in Spain there is a conservative party that is more responsible than the others, the PNV, and yes Republicans should learn from this party. However I don't like their ideas, and also I would not consider PNV as a conservative party, not today.
No. They refuse to learn anything from Europe. In fact, they refuse to learn anything from anyone who isn't just like them.
I think he's referring to conservative in the sense of the UK's conservative party or even Canada (not Europe but I at least know more about their policies than many European countries).
The only thing to be learned from the bankrupt and collapsing sh'thole of Europe....... .....is a lesson in what not to do. . .
It wasn't a massive defeat it was a simple loss. If you read through American History you will see many examples of the country going right then left then right again. Its just part of the normal cycle. The republicans still kept the House so that in itself was a victory. Apparently the people are not willing to give the democrats full control again after what you did in 2008. I'm fairly certain that in 2016 the republicans will take the WH again followed by a democrat later. There's no reason to change the platform. Did democrats change their message after the shellacking in 2010? No, and did it matter? No.
lol, well I won't argue with that. My deal is, fun is fun, and I certainly have my share of it. But, this thread for example, title looked interesting/informative and I wanted to read it, then within three sentences... SOS. Anyway, regards to you Paris.
I tend to agree with the OP. I think America has had a center/right political attitude despite which party held political power since the beginning. I believe that has changed. I think we are now a center/left population and this has been caused by the increase of non-Caucasians as a percent of the population. It won't be long before Caucasians are a minority in this country. Since Caucasians make up the majority of conservatives that pretty much seals the deal. I have no doubt that we are heading in the same direction as Europe. I hope they can get control of the size and cost of government before we get to the same point as Greece. The Chinese have lost interest in loaning us money so now we're just "quantitatively easing" it and moving it around among the banks, slowly devaluing the dollar. We create some money out of thin air, send it to the banks interest free and then the banks loan it back to us plus interest. It isn't much different than a Ponzi scheme with the banks playing the part of the money launderers. I have no idea how long they can get away with that before they ruin everything but I'm hoping it won't happen until after I'm gone. Those who believe we can keep spending beyond our means forever just haven't thought it through. It is a shame to see the government behaving this way. By the end of the Clinton administration, the internet bubble had put lots of tax revenue in the coffers and put government on a fairly manageable footing. At that point they could have started reducing the national debt. Instead, They've spent themselves silly for 12 years and now they're just delaying the inevitable. It is very sad. We were once a proud people who took responsibility for our actions and our future. Now I see us descending into becoming a people holding out our tin cups. Very sad.
Maybe you should check that you give FULL information when posting tables, instead of ONLY what suits your agenda! actually, the external debt of an UNITED Europe is lower per capita and lower in regard to the GDP than the US's And external debt is often not an indicator of how badly a country does, because it needs to be adjusted to NET external debt by deducting the external debt of OTHER COUNTRIES OWE YOU! For example, if you look at such country as Chad or Ivory cost, their external debt will be basically inexistant. Do you think that means they are more economically stable than the US or Europe? No. . .they are less stable, because basically it only means that other country have NO CONFIDENCE in their ability to repay, and they are basically stagnating in non-development. Please see the full table and a lot more on Wikepedia: List of countries by external debt Most of it, though, you either need to learn about economics or learn about being honest when providing economic data or you are losing all credibility.
