COVID-19 Research, Drug trials and Pathophysiology

Whatever it is, their systems are different, mostly they are not for profit, so the money allocated for COVID-19 treatment are used properly, E.g hiring more doctors.
Since U.S. medical system is 100% for profit and it is most corrupt in the world, there is a reason to believe that number is exaggerated to produce more COVID-19 patients.

 

I could not find anything about counting standards, at least at CDC website. The assumption is that if patient died due to pneumonia, and patient has COVID-19 the assumption is the death is from COVID-19.

 

What do you think caused the pneumonia?

 

which allocated moneys, explain that, who is hiring the doctors ?
What are you talking about ?

Believes are for Religions, just because you do not know how the death are counted, does not make your believes the truth.

 

I do not care if I know or not. No one in the mainstream media is explaining how deaths are counted, so I assume that numbers are exaggerated.

 

I do not know, but I believe there is certain disease pattern, that can demonstrate that pneumonia was caused by COVID-19.

 

Quiet simple.
You have no idea what you are writing about.
Neither how the dead are counted and neither how the European Health Systems work.

 

I do not have to know anything.
If I see the public hysteria I call it.
You are not the expert as well.

 

Seems that there is more encouraging news along those same lines.

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)31008-4?rss=yes

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z

Per the accompanying BI article in layman's terms.

https://www.businessinsider.com/long-term-coronavirus-immunity-t-cells-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

The basic premise being that our Memory T-Cells are being activated and could provide future immunity and that exposure to other Corona viruses like the Common Cold have produced similar Memory T-Cells that could also be providing immunity.

If these studies hold up under further scrutiny that might explain why not everyone is being infected and that it is possible for there to be an effective and safe vaccine.

Best news I have seen to date so holding thumbs that they are merit worthy.

 

Testing remains fairly unreliable. These saliva tests have shown pretty sizable discordance with swab tests, both with lowish sensitivity:

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-4738

 

Concerning study on pediatric COVID-19, contradicting some earlier opinions on the safety of opening schools (including my own; I used to be more favorable to it and now I'm having my doubts):

https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(20)31023-4/fulltext

 

Melbourne is using saliva tests but only on infants and children

 

A study in the UK with children: very reassuring. Only 1% of the hospitalized children died, 6 children, all six with profound comorbidity. All others recovered just fine, 645, including the MIS-C cases. And this is on the ones who did need hospitalization, making it such that the real infection-fatality rate in children is much smaller than 1%, and may be close to zero in those who don't have profound comorbidity.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3249

 

I noticed a few hundred Melbourne residents who don't like being locked down were out protesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-54040278​

Are they and others impacted blaming the Victoria government for botching quarantine management and kicking off a second wave of infections in Melbourne?

I notice the federal government is thinking about reopening borders with Victoria. Why not wait until the Melbourne outbreak has been resolved?

 

It is hitting he Melbourne economy hard. Lots of blame back and forth of course but the bottom line ie everyone is struggling with this thing. Until we have a vaccine we will keep seeing outbreaks

 

From your cite:

"Limiting the spread of SARS-CoV-2 infections in children is of particular concern as schools plan for re-opening. Our findings suggest that it would be ineffective to rely on symptoms or temperature monitoring to identify SARS-CoV-2 infection. Instead, infection control measures should minimize the possibility of viral spread, with focus on strategies including social distancing precautions, mask use, and/or remote learning. Moreover, schools could screen all students for SARS-CoV-2 infection and establish routine screening protocols. Without infection control measures such as these, there is significant risk that the pandemic will persist, and children could carry the virus into the home, exposing adults who are at higher risk of developing severe disease. This risk is particularly high in lower income communities where household size may be larger with multi-generational co-habitation and greater housing density."​

Are we rushing to get children back in school so we can get parents back to work? But if new cases and hospitalizations jump with students carrying the virus home, people will stay away from nonessential outings and pull back on consumer spending.

The economy has stayed afloat thus far because the government has assumed some of the cost of business shutdowns and/or declining sales--lost revenue that cuts work, jobs and hours, and leaves many businesses unable to cover variable expenses. Cut government support and a lot of businesses will run out of cash.

Republican Senators are hoping to limit support for unemployed workers and small business. It's like a bad rerun of what Republicans did from 1930-33.

Your investments? Federal Reserve policies have created a disconnect between share prices and profits. That disconnect resolves itself, sooner or later, by the market following the actual economy.

 

Agreed. A lot of the federal push for schools and sports to resume is apparently driven by the nefarious Dr. Scott Atlas who is a nutjob (who has Trump's ears) and is for herd immunity, so he thinks that the more we expose the youth, the better.

 

I saw a news story with him expressing his views in news clips about SARS-COV-2 and a recent interview with him denying he said what he's on record as saying.

 

Exactly. Now that he is a White House adviser he is denying it, so that the true intent of his covert action isn't known to the public. While he was out there, he repeatedly said the things he is trying to deny now, and it's absolutely on record.

 

Gaslighting. You only think you heard him say what he said.

Why should we believe this guy if he can't or won't explain why he changed his views?

 

Unlike previously thought, it turns out that maybe the SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted by food, after all. Viable and infectious for 8 days in refrigerated fish.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.06.284695v1.full.pdf

This of course doesn't prove transmission. The fish will likely still be cooked, and it is possible that the virus might be destroyed by stomach acid too. Anyway, a word of caution...

 

Interesting new hypothesis on pathophysiology:

https://elemental.medium.com/a-supe...teresting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63

@557, see the above. Based on bradykinin rather than cytokines.

 

Just to let everyone know:

Serious side effects have appeared in someone who was given the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, so it was suspended. Of course the vaccine might not have anything to do with it, but they can't take chances.

Today I read in the Greek news that the patient has come down with Transverse Myelitis.
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Transverse myelitis is an inflammation of both sides of one section of the spinal cord. This neurological disorder often damages the insulating material covering nerve cell fibers (myelin).Transverse myelitis interrupts the messages that the spinal cord nerves send throughout the body. This can cause pain, muscle weakness, paralysis, sensory problems, or bladder and bowel dysfunction.​

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@577 Following post #347, there is this surprising study:

https://www.mdedge.com/internalmedi...=U.S. tops 500,000 COVID-19 cases in children

 

According to the ABC news tonight “
Key points:

• AstraZeneca says reports its CEO confirmed a case of transverse myelitis in a COVID-19 vaccine trial participant are "incorrect"
• The company said the was "no final diagnosis" and the independent safety committee was conducting its review
• In July, the panel found a case of multiple sclerosis in a participant was unrelated to the vaccine.