Covid cured?

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  1. FatBack

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    But Biden told you all that if he was elected they would cure cancer.
     
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    No one will ever know. You believe what the government tells you and I do not. Pretty simple.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    I see absolutely no evidence that President Biden is "suddenly pretending it's not dangerous anymore". Where is your evidence to back-up your outlandish statement?
     
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    No. That is a blatant untruth, being told by many untruthful propagandists. Biden said that if he was elected he would re-start "Cancer Moonshot", which was started during his tenure as Vice-President and then literally destroyed by Trump. The GOAL of Cancer Moonstart is to find a lasting cure for as many forms of cancer as we possibly can. This does not mean that he promised that "he" or "they" would cure cancer.

    Seriously, all it takes is some discernment and also some honest bones in ones' body in order to post quality stuff and above all else, to not spread untruths or partisan propaganda.

    I mean, had Trump continued Cancer Moonstart, I would have applauded him for it, because that should, in a normal world with people who are not frothing at the mouth and monday nicht armchair quarterbacking, a NON partisan issue.

    Think about it.
     
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    He said it from his own mouth.

    But you got it half correct it was a blatant lie
     
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    Can you define “substitute solutions”? Are you referring to things shown to reduce chance of Covid hospitalization by 226% while simultaneously reducing all cause mortality by 40% and increasing C19 antibodies after vaccination? Or something that by doing absolutely nothing can reduce odds of SARS-CoV-2 infection by 12%?

    Can antivirals reduce all cause mortality by 40%. Can they decrease chance of infection? Can they increase antibody levels in vaccinated individuals?
     
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    It's a damn joke. But is it? Biden claims inflation is entirely the fault of Putin so our pos idiot president can say anything.
     
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    Surely you can post a link to a video where he said that HE or THEY were going to cure cancer.

    I can wait.
     
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    Wow a lot of BS there.

    First of all a VP cannot start anything because they have no control of our tax dollars. Symbolic I guess. Here is the year by year funding for "Cancer moonshot". How did Trump destroy it? Spending continued every year he was president. 2/3 of the spending occurred while Trump was president. It never stopped and never was destroyed.

    And why is Biden spending less even in 2023 than was spent in 2017? He wants people to die?

    If the federal government was truly serious about ending cancer they would spend $100B a year for 10 years.

    https://www.cancer.gov/about-nci/budget/fact-book/cancer-moonshot
     
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    Take a break. You accused Trump of destroying "Cancer moonshot" when he did no such thing.
     
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    Did you know he had a son Beau, who died from cancer? Burn pits!

    Trump and Trump supporters are pro burn pit!

     
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    I'm an operator of the sector, but NBC, not medical.
    Generic antivirals work in a more or less efficient way according to the antiviral you get.
    I'm reluctant to enter details since in Italy authorities suggest to positive subjects [with Covid] to assume the wrong drugs [and I'm wondering why!].

    Anyway, antivirals can reduce mortality and hospitalization.
    They can increase antibody levels, according to their nature: drugs don't do that [as for I know], monoclonal antibodies do that.

    In any case, my experience tells me that COVID is going to become a friend ... it's going to stay with us. No way.
    Why? Because it's a coronavirus. We live with coronavirus [cold is generated by a coronavirus, not to talk about flu].
    We cannot get rid of coronavirus, so don't hope!
     
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    The democrat leadership is a burn pit all of its own.
     
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    Why are you pointing out to me what the Incidental Report note says? As I directed you to the report, I’m obviously already familiar with what it says. Hence, no need to point out to me that that Mass distinguishes hospitalizations for and with Covid by dexamethasone - it is plain as day to anyone looking at this data. Thus my pointing this out to you is not a matter of what “I believe” - it is simply showing you the data according to Massachusetts’ methodology for identifying primary cases.

    Now, you may believe this methodology is “silly (useless)” and that it requires “some understanding of Covid” to understand why, but Mass DPH - with plenty of understanding at its disposal - does not, explaining that 90% of hospitalizations FOR Covid are treated with dexamethasone. Further, that they are well aware that this methodology is not perfect, in large part for the reason you yourself point out: the potential for undercounting. Hence, no one is “making” anyone believe anything.

    You also fail to understand that where methodology remains the same, comparisons for the purposes of determining impact and efficacy are nonetheless the valid. That is, if hospitalizations have been continuously overcounted from one day/week/month to the next, changes in the number of hospitalizations counted are nonetheless real and valid.

    That is, if there are 1,000 hospitalizations a week based on a positive test alone, falling to 500, that would be a 50% drop. If, in reality, only 30% were hospitalized FOR Covid, that would be 300 dropping to 150 - also a 50% drop. Nor, indeed, does it invalidate the proportions of these hospitalizations for whatever cause - with or due to Covid - that are vaccinated or unvaccinated. Again, the methodology is applied to both equally.

    Now, you can call shortcomings in methodology “lying”. That is, however, emotive. Massachusetts is clearly - and openly - adjusting methodology to be more meaningful and informative, acknowledging that it has been overly broad.

    As for the death stats you cite, if 60 out of 220 were vaccinated, and 160 unvaccinated, that translates into death rates of 1.13 per 100K for the vaccinated and 10.06 per 100K for the unvaccinated - nine times higher.
     
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    Did you post your untruth as intentional?
     
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    He told me nothing.
     
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    More nonsense.
    There's still the term covid prices floating around.
    As prices went up due to supply shortage.

    Prices always go up when demand exceeds supply.
     
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    Everything I post is intentional. Why would you think otherwise? It was not an untruth. It was an opinion. No different from all the other opinions on this site.
     
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    It was not an opinion. One must have data to form an opinion.
    You made an untrue statement. And you said intentionally.

    Have a good day
     
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    So what does that have to do with Putin? Biden blamed inflation on Putin!
     
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    Covid has kind of been the big story for the past two years and people are tired of it, the omnicron variant is a lot less dangerous and cases and facalities are plummeting, and Ukraine is a really big story.
     
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  22. FatBack

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    Of course not.... :rolleyes: only the things you want to hear, did you hear.
     
  23. FatBack

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    It's not my job to get you up to speed on things you should have been aware of before you voted for him. His stupid claim was discussed here at the time plenty.
     
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    Or in your case. You hear things not said.
     
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    Post the quote. I think you're making it up.
     
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