I'm curious, how many members here care about establishing credibility? I asked this question of one of our members a few weeks ago and received this response:
I would have to concur. While I spend a lot of time repeating my POV of things, I don't actually care too much about how I'm personally perceived. I've spent too many years establishing credility in more important areas, so this place is a something of a relief from all that. They can't fail me (for an exam) or fire me .. so don't care
I've made effort to provide good content, but it seems not much appreciation has sprung up from it. I do endeavor to be intellectually honest. I believe everyone reading deserves that from a writer. Would I say that this has to do with "establishing personal credibility"? No, not really.
I have credibility. If someone is too dumb to see that it isn't my problem. That last thing I would do is worry about what a bunch of people in an internet forum think. When you can't even point to hard science without being accused of bias, you aren't dealing with credible people. So why would you care what they think? You should set higher standards for yourself.
You might want to re-read the op. Does it ask what a member thinks of their own credibility? There are "a bunch of people" here that I care nothing at all about what they think of my credibility. Excluding these people, I care about what everyone else thinks because imo that goes hand-in-glove with why I spend time here. I like to have conversations here. I like it when I learn new things regarding random stuff like solid state batteries here. I enjoy a little sparring that ends in defeat and provides me an opportunity to concede a point, unlike, you, who just ran away last year when I backed up my assertion that Erwin Schrödinger's cat-in-a-box analogy was constructed to assert the absurdity of some of the conjectures being made with regard to both the why and the what of quantum mechanics. Your Jedi Master skills are strong, Thanks for the tip, I'll go home now and rethink my life, hahaha....
Not particularly TBH. Being a none of the above will get you attacked from all sides in due course pretty much anywhere you go. I have a healthy ignore list.
Obviously you think credibility comes from external validation. I know I'm credible. I don't need someone else's approval for validation.
Anyone who requires external validation is clearly not credible. Seeking the approval of others is a fool's game. Beyond that, if you post credible links, as any credible person would do, your credibility is beyond dispute. Obviously this does not include links to Russia Today, Fox, Alex Jones, and the like.
When you tell a fundamental truth that people don't want to hear or admit. they will blame the messenger - the person who is most credible is least likely to be believed.
When you provide videos and testimony and it is attacked because it didn’t come from a different biased outlet, credibility doesn’t even come into play.
You and I are apparently not discussing the same thing. In my op I asked about whether or not folks here care about establishing their credibility. I did not ask whether or not folks here care about seeking approval or a sense of self-worth. Credibility here imo isn't just established with posting credible links, but I do agree it is a key component of what I have in my mind as I've tried to phrase the question. What I'm thinking of is whether or not a member follows through a conversation with a decent attempt to use logic and reason and facts to support their arguments or assertions. And whether or not they concede some points from time to time. For example, I was very disappointed in your lack of a response last year to the point I made about Erwin Schrödinger's cat-in-a-box analogy. These are some of the things I have in mind when asking the question in the op. I'm curious a little bit about your background that you would assert that "anyone who requires external validation is clearly not credible". Again, I suspect we are not quite discussing the same thing. By establishing credibility, I mean to ask why folks would participate on this forum with no concern of how legitimately they participate in a discussion. I attempt to have posts here that are actually discussions, like in the real world, rather than just being an old man firing off an opinion and not giving a s what anyone else thought about it. I'm not sure what you did with your education in physics, maybe you became a college teacher if you went as far as to obtain a phd. That would be an environment conducive to not giving a f about establishing credibility since it is implicit in the job position, so maybe if that's the case then we could further discuss it. However, here, I tend to view the level of effort folks put forth in some of the topics we discuss as indicative of their effort to "establish credibility". The example I mention in the op is imperfect, but seems to me to be largely representative of the way many members here choose to post.
Just always tell the truth and nothing but the truth and people will believe everything you say. Just ask Tony Fauci how that works. "He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE. He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.” THE HILL, Fauci: why the public wasn't told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began, The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary., By Alexandra Kelley | June 16, 2020. https://thehill.com/changing-americ...fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks
Of course, because we live and work with those 'externals'. If we want to keep getting paid, our employer has to believe we're credible. If we want to stay married, our partner has to consider us credible. If our kids are to be guided by us, they must see us as credible. If we're to retain our friends, they need to know we're credible. I would submit that a complete disregard for the opinion of others is sociopathic. Something someone who lives alone, has no friends or family, and is unemployed might say.
