Crime In Kenosha Is Connected To Deindustrialization

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Enjoy Trump and his enablers. Please understand that you and your sort aren't fooling anybody anymore.
     
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  2. Horhey

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    That's not where you got it, that's not a response to my points or my questions.

    How silly of me to think you could manage a simple conversation.

    Oh well..
     
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    The Republican dominated Senate Intel report, all our intel agencies, the intel agencies of several other countries, and some Russians, concluded the Russians cyber attacked us. Much of Europe has shiny new cyberdefense programs, and there is an international contest each year to see which country is best at defending against a Russian attack.

    So.. we can rule out both simple conversations, and ones requiring both participants to have a clue.

    Btw, the Russians are still doing it. Ever watch news? Facebook just shut down a number of Russian attacks.
     
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  6. Horhey

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    Those same GOP Senators have been wanting war with Russia since the first Obama administration. There was nothing new in the Senate report except dishonest retellings.



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    Thwn they integrated the schools.
     
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    What a wonderful attempt to Rationalize & Justify, the greed & exploitation being meted
    ......................................................... out to an Ovine Humanity by a few Pigish Parasitic Psychopaths.

    Pig People fully ready to Murder in order to maintain their Power & Privileged. - However,
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    Politicians in Washington didn't have to vote for tyrannical Free Trade deals.

    Investor-State dispute settlement undermines rule of law and democracy - OHCHR
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    TPP is no different.

     
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    POVERTY AND CRIME

    The notion that economic deprivation necessarily leads to lawlessness is widely believed but is not supported by empirical evidence. Human history is replete with examples of impoverished people—of all racial and ethnic backgrounds—who have endured extreme poverty without descending into criminal activity. During the 1960s, for instance, the residents of San Francisco's Chinatown were among America's poorest people—with the most unemployment, the worst housing conditions, the least education, and the highest rate of tuberculosis in their city. Yet despite such hardships, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the entire state of California in 1965.[1]

    Similarly, Jewish immigrants to America during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries also repudiated criminality despite having to face extreme economic deprivation. Historian Max Dimont describes them:

    "The majority of these immigrants had arrived penniless, all their worldly belongings wrapped in a bundle.... Most of [them] arrived in New York. Some made their way into other cities,... but the majority remained in New York, settling in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, [which was] a neighborhood of the poor. Sociologists, with their impressive charts showing the number of toilets (or lack of the), the number of people per room, the low per capita income, paint a dismal picture of the Lower East Side Jewish slum. But their charts do not capture its uniqueness. Though it bred tuberculosis and rheumatism, it did not breed crime and venereal disease. It did not spawn illiteracy, illegitimate children, or deserted wives. Library cards were in constant use."[2]

    The late political scientist James Q. Wilson debunked the theory that crime results from poverty, or that redistributive government programs can reduce crime rates by alleviating poverty, by pointing out that “crime rose the fastest in this country at a time when the number of persons living in poverty or squalor was declining.” He added: “I have yet to see a ‘root cause’ or to encounter a government program that has successfully attacked it.”

    In modern America, the correlation between high crime rates and poverty has a great deal to do with the proliferation of single-parent, father-absent households. According to the U.S Census, in 2008 the poverty rate for single parents with children was 35.6%; the rate for married couples with children was 6.4%. For white families in particular, the corresponding two-parent and single-parent poverty rates were 21.7% and 3.1%, respectively. For Hispanics, the figures were 37.5% and 12.8%, and for blacks, 35.3% and 6.9%. According to Robert Rector, a senior research fellow with the Heritage Foundation, “the absence of marriage increases the frequency of child poverty 700 percent” and thus constitutes the single most reliable predictor of a self-perpetuating underclass.

    Children in single-parent households are burdened not only with profound economic disadvantages, but are also far likelier to eventually get into trouble with the law. As a Heritage Foundation analysis notes, youngsters raised by single parents, as compared to those who grow up in intact married homes, are much more likely to be physically abused; to be treated for emotional and behavioral disorders; to smoke, drink, and use drugs; to behave aggressively and violently; to engage in criminal activity; and to be arrested for a juvenile crime. According to the National Fatherhood Initiative, 60% of rapists, 72% of adolescent murderers, and 70% of long-term prison inmates are men who grew up in fatherless homes.


    NOTES:
    [1] James Q. Wilson and Richard Herrnstein, Crime and Human Nature (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1985), p. 473.
    [2] Max I. Dimont, Jews, God, and History (New York: Penguin USA, 1994), pp. 373-374. (This book was originally published in 1962.)

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    Hey, I'm a liberal but I'm also a realist

    There is a paradigm shift necessary nowadays. (Andrew Yang wrote a whole book on it) I don't really believe it's likely under Biden but maybe it will be later on. Trump will see that it NEVER happens
     
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    Yang is an imperialist status quo manager. In his words to the CFR:
    In plain English:
     
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    More fiction.

    Our intel guys, the intel guys in other countries, their new cyberdefense programs, the Russians that took a victory lap, and that annual cyberdefense contest... all point to you being the dishonest one.

    Not exactly surprising.
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yeh, so?

    The major thing that is happening is that jobs of all kinds, highly skilled and even professional positions are being automated, and you can't fight technological change with governments and laws. You have to find some way to go along with it and that is the paradigm change I refer to. You can hold it off but you generally just turn your country into a backward shithole. Many countries have done just that and Trump wants us to join them.

    Get rid of Trump first and we can work on economic reform later. Trump is going to **** us up if he can. He has to go.
     
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    The US Intelligence Community admitted that they don't have the evidence to back up their claims of Russian meddling. From Clapper's "hand picked" analysts who authored the NIE on the subject:

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    Understand the consequences of what you're pushing.

    Risk of Nuclear War Now Highest Since WW2

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/risk-of-nuclear-war-now-highest-since-ww2.572328/
     
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    From your link:

    "We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US
    presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process,
    denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess
    Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We
    have high confidence in these judgments.
     We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s
    election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her
    unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence
    in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
     Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the
    electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton
    was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining
    her future presidency.
     Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior
    since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and
    goals."

    I would remind you that several other countries were attacked similarly.

    All of which is to say you are babbling.
     
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    Doesn't change anything. No proof.
     
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    I accept the implicit admission of defeat.

    Face it, that's a schizoid level of denial.
     
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    They admit they have no proof and they have a long record of lying us into war and duping the public into supporting imperialism.

    Former CIA operations director John Stockwell explains how the Agency works the US media.



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    You usually don't in intel.

    It's the wrong metric. There's enough there to get a dozen convictions.

    This happened to several countries, you aren't saying anything grounded in reality.
     
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    FYI. Left wing media's lies has pretty much caused all the riots.
     
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    Somehow, I bet if the Radical Left wingers never interfered with Trump or the Mass Media didn't propagate misinformation to smear him, I bet most people would praise him. But, how can you combat a non-stop 24/7 smear campaign from most media outlets to their sheep?
     
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    You can make sure there is nothing but your propaganda after he becomes dictator.
     
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    Evidence is the wrong metric but blind faith in professional liars is the right one. Got it.
     
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    Ahh, when one lie fails you're going to shovel another.
     

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