Cutting Back on Carbon

Good move in not including a link this time. One thing I've found about denialists is they commonly get sunk by their own links as you have so clearly demonstrated.

 

it's winter down there

 

Your scientific arguments are astounding.

 

Science is mostly common observation rigorously confirmed. If you know anything about evaporation causing cooling and wind increasing evaporation you wouldn't go out and advertise your ignorance. Yes wind on water causes cooling. Quite elementary.

 

If you knew anything about sea ice dynamics you would understand just how important wind has been in arctic ice loss. But you dont and it isn't very elementary so I dont expect you to grasp it.

 

Sigh, I provide then again and again and all people like you do is ignore them.



http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/index.noshade.html

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That is why you look at the sea ice anomaly.

 

it's decreasing in the arctic, something which is significant

 

Ah, so only the northern hemisphere is the world. Didn't know that. Go figure.

 

it's the part experiencing a melt-down

 

And the part that is experiencing a buildup of ice faster than the 'melt-down'? Not part of the world?

 

you're saying that, not me

 

Yeah, I know, you are ignoring half of the world.

 

no, i'm pointing out the part where the biggest problem is

 

Why do you think it is a problem?

 

sea-levels are rising, climate is changing, increased incidence of drought, longer and more extreme fire seasons

 

Climate is going to change. Sea level is going to change. Change is the only constant. At some point the next glacial period will begin causing a drastic sea level fall. Lots of ancient cities underwater now long before CO2. Sorry bout the rich people on the coast but hey, at least they can afford to move.

 

it's the rate of change that's the problem

dumping billions of tons of pollutants into the atmosphere has consequences

 

Prove it. Saying an effect exists does not make it significant. I can push on a boulder all I want its not going to move because of its inertia. The climate is a huge complex system with a massive inertia.

 

drop the beaver cleaver act

so you think there aren't consequences from dumping billions of tons of pollutants into the atmosphere?

 

The rate of sea level rise has slowed by 30%. There is nothing different than other periods of warming or cooling as far as rate goes and there has been no rate increase much less warming increase for over 17 years now. Hard to make that claim.

 

you're just as wrong about that now as you were 14 pages ago

 

Sure thing Skippy.

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v4/n5/full/nclimate2159.html

 

of course you won't look at reality

 

Miami will flood no matter what and those rich people will have to move. The sea has been rising since the beginning of the Holocene, at times higher than now, at times lower. It was higher yet during the Eemian when it was 6C warmer than now. No matter what, sea level will change and when the next glacial period starts it will lower more than 400 feet. So what's the problem? Think you are going to control the earth like you do your heating at home?

 

not at the current rate