D Day

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  1. DrewBedson

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    A joint effort in which half the troops on D Day were US. So tell us Snake, with half the troops assaulting the beaches you would say it would have been successful? And that involvement could have been simply conducting patrols along the US coast.

    So let me get this straight. You say the US was making money off the Nazis and so, they had an economic interest in saving the Germans from the Allies but joined in on the side of the Allies to save their economic interests.

    This is just too rich!:roflol:
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Like I said, a joint effort. Thanks for agreeing. I don't deal in 'what if's' and strawmen.
     
  3. DrewBedson

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    I agreed long time ago it was a joint effort and never said anything to the contrary. My contention was and is that the US were not forced to aid the Euros so be thankful they decided to help save your aZZes.
     
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    Yes I have.
    I've stated quite clearly that the responsibility of MP's and other civil servants are quite different to the armed forces.
    And they even take different oaths as well.
    Again I have which has got to be 3 maybe 4 four times now.
    As I've said before Canada was it's own nation with jurisdiction over it's own forces and foreign policy and it was and still is up to them to decide.
    And again there is nothing in the meaning of the word allegiance that prescribes force of arms.
    Even the merriam webster definition doesn't support your claim at all
    No I said that you can't possibly be qualified to do anything else.
    No I didn't lie. I just think very little of you.
    No.
    You are behaving like one.
    And not a single thing that you've written has been accurate at all.
    The fact that you believe that the following is correct shows that you know absolutely nothing about the subject at all.
     
  5. DrewBedson

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    I posted the oath the MPs take along with definitions of the words used, it says they are to support and be loyal. Not supporting and being loyal is breaking the oath.

    You said I worked in a warehouse and cannot prove I do. You lied. Good night.
     
  6. Pro-Consul

    Pro-Consul Banned

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    And as I've said it doesn't matter if you don't use force of arms because even paying VAT on a toaster is still supporting your sovereign.
    Or doing your duty to represent your constituents which believe it or not is exactly what MP's do.
    Struck a nerve have we?
    No I said that there simply isn't anything that you're qualified to do other than warehouse work and that's not lying.
    And you haven't proven that you don't either.
    You have a real problem with the English language don't you?
    Or history like say Canada became independent in 1967; come on even someone with room temperature IQ would understand that wasn't right.
    I'm going to save you some embarrassment and block your posts and not respond at all at least that way you can pretend to yourself that you've won an infinitesimally small victory against perfect strangers about something that isn't even current with no physical prize.

    Honestly I would hate to be in your shoes if this was your only thing in life.
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    I think if facebook had existed back then - Australia and the UK would have had "complicated" under relationship status
     
  8. DrewBedson

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    Pretty silly as one could pay their taxes and send vital information direct to Hitler by which to bring the Monarchy down and, if their constituents wished to join Nazi Germany to fight Britain I highly doubt that would be providing much support to the Monarchy either.

    The oath is;

    "I, A.B. do swear, That I will be faithful and bear true Allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria."

    It mentions no conditions such as paying taxes, placing the needs of constituents ahead of the Monarch or any other weasel words but states to be faithful and bear true allegiance.


    ALLEGIANCE

    1
    a : the obligation of a feudal vassal to his liege lord
    b (1) : the fidelity owed by a subject or citizen to a sovereign or government (2) : the obligation of an alien to the government under which the alien resides
    2
    : devotion or loyalty to a person, group, or cause

    loy·al·ty
    noun \ˈlȯi(-ə)l-tē\

    : the quality or state of being loyal

    : a loyal feeling : a feeling of strong support for someone or something

    sup·port
    transitive verb \sə-ˈpȯrt\

    : to agree with or approve of (someone or something)

    : to show that you approve of (someone or something) by doing something

    : to give help or assistance to (someone or something)


    You lied again, you stated that I did work in a warehouse, here is your quote;

    Nothing about qualifications so, which warehouse do I work in that makes it obvious? If you can't show and prove this then you are lying and, you have been given ample opportunity to do this so are lying.

    You said I did so it is up to you to prove your garbage, please do so.

    "Onus Probandi

    [Latin, The burden of proof.] In the strict sense, a term used to indicate that if no evidence is set forth by the party who has the Burden of Proof to establish the existence of facts in support of an issue, then the issue must be found against that party
    ."

    Once you have provided your proof I shall provide counter proof. Note that proof is not a suspicion or allegation but a factual case which leaves no other possibility other than your case to decide the point. Eliminating billions of potential possibilities is not proof of anything so please, provide the proof that I work in a warehouse and then, we shall go from there.

    No I don't as I am able to understand a lie from truth quite easily in this language and recognize a personal attack used by a liar.

    Thank you for blocking me and hope this will not be simply another lie on your part.

    It is not so my shoes are quite enjoyable! :clapping:
     

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