DEA laments that “media attention” is making it tough to put people in jail for pot

Well that's glib but not necessarily true.
My daughter used to feel weed was essentially harmless until she began teaching school to less than affluent students who showed up regularly stoned.

Some people that smoke regularly can operate quite well but then there are others that fall through the cracks for various related reasons.
Fortunately most states have resisted the urge to make weed legal, up until now.

 

1st off no one is saying give it to kids but it does slow down some people. Some people can handle alcohol and some cant. Should we make it illegal ?

Im still wanting to know why hemp is illegal

 

I think manufacturing, growing it, carries stiffer penalities on the federal level. But here in my state, getting caught with several dime bags will get you a sells and distribution charge and more than 1.5 years in prison. You become a felon, which will ruin the life of young people.

 

The people have spoken and what they said in full voice was:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Chew on that.

 

I'm on the fence about legalization. Growing up with Sativa and some indicas like red and gold bud of the 70's I'd be 100% on board with total legalization. The problem I see is the concentrates like BHO and eatables. Personally I haven't a clue how children "And you know they have total access to them" can even function while under the influence of these enhanced products. I have been told that in time tolerant levels balance it out, but I'm not so sure that's a healthy way to view it!

It's sort of like drinking 140 proof clear and claiming once your liver is wasted it will hardly effect you anymore

 

The pro weed lobby is strong and vociferous but I don't see how one can claim that children growing up in Washington, Colorado, etc. are not adversely effected.

 

They got me good.... Yeah I know all about it.

But here in Illinois they don't care, they may give you a ticket but most of the time they just dump the weed out.

 

Given your response ill assume your one of the people who "lament" it as well. Tell me how someone lighting up a bowl or joint in the privacy of their own home violates your rights? Oh wait, millions upon millions of Americans light up everyday since long before legalization was ever a thought and your life has been no better or worse for it.

"states rights,Except when it's something i personally disdain"

 

It is both glib, and true. Nobody is suggesting you sell weed to kids... Or alcohol etc.

 

Well, if you are white, your odds are much better. That is one hell of a sentence and bond for pot dust.

 

Well you compared the problems weed contributes to society as being akin to a dog traking up your home, as I recall. That's glib...but hardly true.
And no, no one suggests selling weed to kids, but when society condones it by legalizing it the not so subtle message to kids is... enjoy.

 

I guess I was unclear. sorry. By dog track, I meant legal gambling. Greyhounds. Wrought with sorrow.

Kids should not gamble, drink, or smoke pot. You disagree?

 

No. Of course not and that's why, in part, I see the legalization of weed as sending
a dangerous message to kids.

Let's be clear: I'm not for throwing some guy in prison for smoking weed in his own home after work. Neither am I in favor of the states that have legalized
pot. I think it's a dangerous trend, in the long run.

 

That's what they have parents for.

 

Oh, come on. We all know it's the government that's responsible for raising kids, not the parents, silly.

 

The current black market seeks to keep Marijuana, Coca and Opium poppies ILLEGAL because the profits are obscene. Law Enforcement gets some tax dollars for drug abatement. Making it legal will (*)(*)(*)(*) off a whole bunch of guys with guns.

 

It's quite scary, too, to think that it's a conservative who's taking the position that we need big-government intervention to protect our children from the evil marijuana plant.

 

not really, i just thought it was a side note, just because someone says "X bothers me" doesn't mean they need to start a campaign to push their personal agenda forward by contacting their representatives. 99% of the time we ALL think passively about social/cultural/current events.

Anyhoo, I think the next 4-8 years will lead us to the end of convictions for the casual user, I'm just fine if the feds back off on weed. Alcohol does far more damage and we seem willing to tolerate the negative effects and try to promote responsible usage.

Make it legal, license it, tax it, save everyone a lot of resources, take a little chunk out of the underground economy along the way. I wouldn't even mind early release of some of the mild to moderate past convictions that generated long sentences. (some of those convicts might be guys I went to college with, so i'm just thinking about my boys here)

 

Irresponsible dopers have externalities that redound to me.

Almost no dopers understand this.

If you can demonstrate your comprehension of this concept we can go another round.

 

Well, he shouldn't expect other people to do it for him, either (Geez, zbr can't respond himself? What does this guy need? Lawyers for PF? Let him speak for himself, or not, as the case may be).

 

So do responsible drinkers, and in a lot more ways from what I've heard and experienced, so if you're not on the alcohol prohibition bandwagon, too, I'm not really interested in your concerns about the dangers of marijuana.

Are you?

 

Strawman. Every doper fails at this.

 

You can call it whatever you want. No cares about your hypocritical bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

whatever dude. I can see this isn't going anywhere so i'm moving on.

 

If you arent on the alcohol prohibition wagon, then you are most definitely being hypocritical and really shouldn't be speaking about the much lesser ills of cannabis use.