Dealing with the illogical perceptions of White America

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    The first thing hitler did was attack the press

    Then he made the country try “us and then”

    Then he made one group “infesters” and vermin..dehumanizing People makes it easier to detach from human empathy

    And worst was the people didn’t think it could lead to where it did.
     
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    Control of the press is one of the main objectives of any totalitarian regime.

    The founders knew the age old trick of getting people to give up essential liberty on the basis of fear - in return for temporary insecurity. This is why they put individual liberty "Above" the legitimate authority of Gov't. - to try and put a blockade in place against abuse of Gov't power.

    Stalin used fear of an external threat to take away essential liberty - "Security for the Motherland"
    Hitler did the same "Fatherland Security"

    Hmmmm ... at the risk of getting repetitious ... Bush used fear of an external threat to take away essential liberty. Lacking the creative ability to come up with a new name - "Homeland Security".

    Under Bush it became our "Patriotic Duty" to trade essential liberty for security.

    Obama then changed the name to the equally Orwellian doublespeak "Freedom Act"

    What happened to "Give me liberty or Give me Death" ? "Land of the Free - home of the Brave" ? Now so many are on their knees and hiding in corners "begging" to give up their essential liberty over a risk of harm that is 400 times less than the risk of harm from walking.

    All day long in the MSM - Fear, Fear, Fear. The Media is owned by the Establishment international financiers. Foreign policy is based on the economic agenda of the same.

    The so called "deep state" is a fancy term for the elite Establishment bureaucrats. Elite politicians both red and blue - make up the other branch of the Establishment.

    In 2013 it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens. Where was the public debate ? Where was the reporting of this in the MSM. The MSM is the propaganda arm of the Establishment.

    Where was the reporting on the well establish fact that we armed and supported Al Qaeda and other extremist groups (that went on to form the modern incarnation of ISIS) in Syria .. an action that led to the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade 500,000 dead, and the refugee crisis.

    Why would we do such a thing ? Our foreign policy is based on economic agenda .. and the ends justify the means. If this means using Al Qaeda and ISIS to fight a proxy war .. so be it.

    We are still fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda in Syria a war that is causing the next biggest humanitarian crisis. Joy .. how lovely.

    It warms my hear to see Trump snuggling up to El Saud - #1 state sponsor of Terror - cradle of the Salafist ideology that inspires groups like - Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Islamic Front - and a plethora of other groups of the same ilk all over the world. The land of El Saud ... where men are men and women are slaves.

    Yes we should fight along side El Saud to implement the Saudi Style Strict Sharia theocratic system on Yemen. Isn't that what every little girl wants ... to be married off to some 50 yr old at the age of 10. What woman does not want a man ruling over her every action .. need a mans permission to be educated or have a bank account.

    We need to start stoning women for adultery in the USA ... that is what we are fighting for in Yemen after all.

    Perhaps we could also benefit from implementing the death penalty for homosexuality and apostasy.. after all .. that is what we are fighting to implement in Yemen. Our Islamist Extremist proxy army failed us in Syria - perhaps the will succeed in Yemen. Truly the world would then be a better place.
     
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    But becoming a multimillionaire is a lot harder than staying poor. Staying poor is EASY. Just be a moron and you'll be poor. Its a lack of effort that keeps you poor. Staying poor your whole life is ONLY due to inept irresponsibility or a disability that prevents you from being able to care for yourself. If you're able bodied there is NO EXCUSE to be a failure. NONE!!! Its just laziness and bad decision making. Sorry, theres no excuse for being an idiot over and over again, sabotaging your life.
     
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    Yeah, they really work hard at being poor..they just love poverty. There is a psychological aspect, when you have no hope. My husband came from the worst poverty and his race and gender helped him to get the opportunities he was offered and he will be the first one to tell you that .your contempt for poor people is sickening....But I am sure you don’t want to see the minimum wage raise
     
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    In clumsy, naive, and oblivious fashion, you failed to register anything but black and white. It's not about 'loving' poverty - it's about 'loving' the hard work of escaping poverty, less. It's a matter of degree.

    I'd love to be a multimillionaire, but not so much that I'm prepared to do what it takes to be one.
     
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    I actually think it takes considerable effort to remain poor inter-generationally. For one, you have to work very hard at ensuring your kids never escape by inadvertently exposing them to alternatives. You have to keep up the indoctrination (in helplessness and resentment). You have to make sure you blow every cent you ever accumulate. You have to make poor choices .. in partners, lifestyles, addictions, and so on. Etc etc etc. That's a lifetime of dedication to the mission.

    But to the people doing it, it's evidently a comfortable form of 'work', since they keep choosing it.
     
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    We're not all the same, so naturally there are going to be differences. You do the best you can, and if that's a tent on the sidewalk, well... it's a tent on the sidewalk.
     
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    I doubt if they are that hard up

    But I was referring to American born welfare bums who are too lazy to do those jobs
     
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    Thats true

    Other white guys from my income class made more money with the same opportunity I had

    And others did not do as well

    In my America we are all individuals

    In your America everyone is a cookie cutter socialist
     
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  10. Renee

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    What bigotry to think that poor people don’t try to escape poverty
    The way you don’t think you’re prepared to be a millionaire is the same way poor people don’t believe college is an option for them. We Just looked at UVA for. My granddaughter...,only $60,000 a year . I’m sure all my students in the housing projects can check it out .
    You also sound like you think these poor people don’t work hard. They work damn hard and usually work two jobs to make ends meet but people like you don’t want to see the minimum wage raised so they could live a decent life. I just don’t understand people like you and luckily for me I don’t know many who think like that
     
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    If on,y you got upset at the rich bums who leech off the system...People who are on welfare are not bums, that’s your bigotry kicking in, If we dehumanize people on welfare of way you have it’s easy to scapegoat..mmmm, where did I see his “us” and “them”
     
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    There is plenty of waste, fraude and abuse in the federal budget

    And I agree that welfare is not the only program that needs to bereformed and downsized
     

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