Debate: Israel – victim or aggressor?

Considering what I have seen what you call "Innocent" people do to the Israelis and the rest of the world, I think your the one that's disgraceful

 

Say whatTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT????

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...487-israel-doesn-t-need-west-bank-secure.html

 

That's the reason they got rid of him, right??

Haven't go back to it yet.

 

Right, but of course that's where a lot of the terrorist cross over isn't it.

 

And how many people did we kill after 9-11??? If you attack and start the killing you have to be prepared to accept the consequences. Here's a crying towel for you too.

 

{{""Do you think its ok to slander peoples parents""}}

If the parents are fools, absolutely

 

You are not correct. If you are on leave then you are still getting paid your salary and that means you are not fired at all. People who are fired do not get paid. See how easy that is?

 

Israel has butchered thousands of CIVILIANS,women and children,innocent women and children and you feel they should kill more. There is something wrong with someone who feels like that.

 

Your own quote states that he resigned, you say he was effectively fired. That however is just something youve made up.

Its unfortunate you think you can post actual verbatim words and then tell us that they mean something other than what they sy.

If they are fools then its not slander beenthere. You know that, so why try to play games with us? Im giving you the benefit of the doubt that youre not as stupid as your last comment indicates.

Ill give an example of the point, I dont know and cant prove wether or not your mother was/ is a peadophile - but do you think it would be ok if I went around your neighborhood telling everyone with great assurance that she was/ is indeed a peadophile?

Would that be ok? If not, then why is it ok for people like AD to go around telling people that NF's mother was a kapo?

 

I totally agree with this statement.

Thus Israelis have no cause to be crying all the time about how they are the righteous victims. They started it, theyve been reaping the whirlwind ever since.

 

B.S. Cre.. Your Arab buddies started it in 1920 and have keep it up ever since.

 

So is a policeman placed on administrative until the situation is solved but if it goes against him he's gone. An officer in the Armed forces is place on the same thing and given a chance to retire instead of facing a full court. So don't sit there and run through you jargon, "Oh, but he was PAID", nonsense when we all know what it means. Out here in the real world it's what we call Fired. The just allowed him to save face, the same way the service does with one of their officers that's stepped over the line.

 

Oh, yes, 3rd, keep screeming that and maybe you will srart to believe it after a while. Israel doesn't taget women and children the way your beloved Arab terrorist do.

 

You are not fired until you are fired and you certainly are not fired when you are getting paid and Finkelstein did not do anything wrong so trying to compare him to policemen etc who have done something wrong just shows how weak your silly argument is.

 

All the evidence says you are wrong. You should just give up because the only people who will believe anything you say are the terminally stupid. You have been proven wrong on virtually everything you have posted.

 

The arabs started it?

They were only defending their land from an invading army and an immigrant group intent on carving out a new state. Thats what anyone would do and therefore they cannot have started it.

In fact is there any example in human history you can name where a native people have accepted the division of their land with an immigrant group? Can you name these people beenthere? After all, you claim to have studied history extensively so I expect you could do so easily.

If not then its logically impossible to conclude that the arabs somehow started this thing.

 

So what situation was NF involved in? What investigation such as a policeman or army officer in your example was NF involved in?

If we all know what it means, then perhaps you can explain it all to us in detail.

In the real world it certainly IS NOT what we call fired. But maybe you can explain to us what line NF crossed?

If cant explain any of the accusations youre making here any further I expect youll do the decent thing and either concede the points or stop spouting baseless accusations. Is that a fair expectation of you?

 

Hahahahahahahahahaha, I know better.

 

Rubbish. I post well known history and you come off the wall with some jerk from out in left field and we're suppose to fall alover our selves saying how right him and you are??? Garbage

 

What land??? As I have so often done before, her is a map of "Palestine" when all this started, please show me how it looks today and who has the majority of it;

http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...b=13psqn6uv&sigi=11vdlrkg7&.crumb=SinlNfqClhq

Can you be honest enough to admit that the Arabs have the majority of the land of 1920 "Palestine"???

Let's start from just that one point

 

It would seem that your beloved NF was involved in a debate and embarrassed DuPaul. Do that and it's, "See you later"

 

A bold statement for a guy that writes mostly fiction.

You mean you post well know fantasy fiction. You claimed that Finkelstein was fired,he was not and you were wrong.

 

Who is DuPaul?

 

Indeed but they were a majority in BOTH parts. Not just trans jordan but palestine as well.

Therefore theyy cannot have started anything as they did what anyone else would do - object to the division of any part of their lands with any group, none of whom had ever seen this land.

Can you be honest enough to admit that?

Ill start from any point you like.