Debt limit will be reached on Monday...government shut down

That's not true at all. You make some incredibly definitive, unsubstantiated claims and when someone says those claims are crazy or that they aren't true, your first response is a deflective response, usually talking about putting someone on ignore for calling your statements ridiculous. For example...

"The only thing that will turn this around is true, private sector, lower tax incentivized, CAPEX. End of story."

That is not the "only" thing that will turn this around... and it is not the "End of story". Those are just the type of statements you make that you get called out on, and when you get called out for saying something stupid like this you ignore the person. If there is any parrot in these conversations, it is most definitely you.

 

Another (*)(*)(*)(*)ed lie. You need to stop doing that.

The Democrats did take over Congress by their win in the election of 2006. The Fiscal 2007 budget was the last passed by the Republican majority.
Your Demoncrats haven't passed a budget in the Senate since Obama took Office.

 

Not at all. You need to stop baselessly saying I lied when you are uninformed, misinformed, and you don't know what you're talking about. It makes you look silly.

What I stated is absolutely true. Anyone can see for themselves here http://cbo.gov/publication/42911 that the deficit in 2007 was $160 billion only if you take the extra SS tax receipts and count them as general revenue. When you exclude the money stolen from SS, the "on-budget" deficit that year was $342.2 billion. And the cost of the Bush wars, kept of the books by the Bush administration, was about $150 billion a year in that time period.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/26/AR2007122601542.html

That adds up to about $1/2 trillion, exactly what I said.

The One Hundred Tenth United States Congress was the meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, between January 3, 2007, and January 3, 2009,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress

See, I don't lie. You just don't know what you are talking about. Consider getting information from sources other than Sean and Rush. Then you will know that folks like me aren't lying.

 

If CAPEX isnt happening, it means businesses and people arent spending money. Its not unsubstantiated whatsoever. Government revenues grow when the economy grows.

There is no trick to this, and no one will argue with this.

 

No offense intended. I was just curious. A young man gainfully employed wouldn't have the sort of time necessary to devote to PF like you do. So I assumed you were an old retired guy with time on his hands like me.

 

Indeed, but at the cost of tearing the country apart. Remember, obamacare is what actuated the right after its near destruction in 2008.

 

People aren't spending because they don't have the money, as almost all the growth of income and wealth over the past 30 years has gone to the richest, and mostly the 1%, who stick it in their offshore accounts.

Add that to getting wiped out by the housing bubble and competition from overseas, and it should be no surprise that this recovery, like the one before it and the one before it has been slower and shallower than all those before we adopted "trickle down" policies.

 

Lol, gotta love desperation.

 

Just curious, but is default ever an option in fiscal liberal fantasy land?

 

We actually agree. Its just too bad our government is more interested in giving money to Haliburton, GE, General Motors, Afghanistan, Egypt, Bank of America, JP Morgan, Solyndra, First Solar, etc. Then into the hands of people who actually need it.

Then to go hardcore after income tax rates, without removing the ability to offshore more money anyways (and other tax loopholes). Talk about stupid. They are idiots.

And it seems you like it. Sad.

 

As I've stated innumerable times, I don't favor giving the richest special low tax rates or tax breaks at all.

And it seems you have to continue to intentionally mischaracterize my position. Sad.

 

I don't see you fighting for anything but tax raises on the rich. You have link somewhere where you are questioning Obama's complete lack of integrity when it comes to closing loopholes? How about any other stance besides "Obama has done great" and "I love Obama"?

 

if there's any tearing the country apart, the gop is doing it, not healthcare

 

that just BS, du. the country is more divided today under obama than it has every been. obama is the most divisive president in our history. half of the country wants european socialism under chairman maobama, and the other half wants freedom as established by the constitution. obamacare is but a symptom of that divide.

 

Lets get one thing straight.

The USA will never default on its debt--that is a pile of left wing BS

the debt will be paid first, then SS and medicare, then the other functions needed to keep the country running, whatever depts are left after those things are paid will not be funded---and that would be a good thing.

The house should never again agree to increasing the national debt limit. NEVER.

 

that's because of the gop

 

cute cartoon, but obstructing more *******ed spending programs is the right thing to do. Keep it up GOP, continue to block obama's stupid economic ideas.

 

obstructing the economy is stupid and destructive

no wonder you guys lost

 

Don't feed the trolls.

 

Your first link is bogus and the second doesn't back up your lie. The third I am not going to bother with because I know what it says. You are ducking demoncrat control by asserting that the two "independents" in the Senate were not really Democrats.

Lie some more so I can completely kill all of your credibility.

 

I see you have devolved to nothing more than ad hominems. Typical leftist. when you have no argument to defend, insult and besmirch your opponent. Truly typical.

 

In my opinion, the Right would inspire more confidence in their sincerity, if they were busier promoting the general welfare of the United States.

 

that's funny, i see you're still sore over losing

 

This coming from a guy who can't even define a federal reserve failure, regardless of its likelihood (especially since you can't define it). <---- Thats you dujac. You are that guy.

 

i've already defined it as unlikely