Democrat Beliefs In America?

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Why so Russian trolls beat their wife and children?

    He doesn't hate Democrats, he is Russian who tries to play Americans against each other, and his angle is to misrepresent Dems, with hopes that the pseudo cons take the bait (which they usually do). He does it in every thread he shows up on.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    I was just wondering if you can quote any democrat wanting to take God out of America?

    I was also wondering why you are willing to stoop to asking a question with an assumed premise?
     
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    Incompetent rebuttal; weasel words do not make a merit worthy argument. Please substantiate your claim.

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    LOL! My claim is common knowledge, hence, it is pre-substantiated.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incompetent rebuttal; weasel words do not make a merit worthy argument. Please substantiate your claim.

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    Since you haven't substantiated your allegations, they are vacuous, I"ll make a claim and substantiate it:

    Your mention of porn is rich considering Trump has appeared in 2 porn films, brags about grabbing women's genitals, is accused by 25 women of sexual misconduct

    The vast majority of crimes committed by White House staff are committed in Republican administrations:

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    Not to mention a number of Republicans tend are criminals. My former Congressman was convicted of corruption, though he was pardoned by Trump

    U.S. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry Charged with Scheme to Deceive Federal Investigators Probing Illegal Campaign Contributions in 2016

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/p...deceive-federal-investigators-probing-illegal

    Despite that indictment, Fortenberry told his people he was going to continue with his reelection campaign for Congress. But, that didn't bother Trump who has given him his support. Tsk tsk, too bad Trump wasn't president so he couldn't be pardoned.

    But, he stood trial and a jury convicted him on 3 felony counts, deliberating for only 2 hours.

    So, he's not allowed to keep his seat, and tomorrow in Nebraska they will be voting for a new nominee for Republican.

    But, add insult to injury, at a rally Trump endorses Nebraska Gubernatorial candidate accused of groping a GOP state senator, and other women.

    And, it doesn't stop here.

    The disgraced former governor of Missouri, Eric Greitens who was forced to resign because of sexual assault (forced a woman into non consensual sex, got a photo of it and blackmailed her) and campaign finance impropriety.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/23/eric-greitens-senate-governor-affair/

    Looks like he feels that he's 'over it' and has decided to jump into the US Senate race, but oops, his ex-wife has filed an affidavit accusing him of physical abuse of her and his children.

    https://missouriindependent.com/202...ical-abuse-in-affidavit-filed-by-his-ex-wife/

    But, that don't bother republicans, he's leading in the polls in the GOP race:

    https://thehill.com/news/campaign/3...nal-poll-shows-him-leading-missouri-gop-race/

    Are we done yet? Nope. How about Georgia?

    In Georgia, Football star Hershel Walker, now a candidate for GA Senate Race, was accused by his wife of holding a pistol to her head and 'blowing her head off'. Walker has a history of 'multiple personality disorder' and violence. Apparently he is leading in the race.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireS...cate-herschel-walkers-recovery-story-82805107

    No prob for Trump, though. Birds of a feather, I guess.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/poli...-walker-endorsement-georgia-senate/index.html

    Over the years, two other women -- Walker's ex-wife and an ex-girlfriend -- have also accused him of making threats, telling authorities Walker claimed he would shoot them in the head.

    https://apnews.com/article/lifestyl...rus-pandemic-5e2875eec11e93f9a3bf1fc859137ff8

    Walker's ex-wife, secured a protective order against him, alleging violent and controlling behavior, threating to 'kill her'.

    Walker has been diagnosed with 'multiple personality disorder'.


    Oh, great, the guy's bananas. But, hey, Trump and republicans love the guy, cause, you know, he's a football star, not to mention a judge has barred Walker from owning and possessing a gun. What could possibly go wrong?

    Apparently, he can add 'liar' to his list of attributes:

    More recently, Walker has made outsize claims about his business record. In repeated media interviews, Walker claimed his company employed hundreds of people, included a chicken processing division in Arkansas and grossed $70 million to $80 million annually in sales.

    However, when the company applied for a federal Paycheck Protection Program loan last year, it reported just eight employees. (It received about $182,000 in COVID-19 aid.)


    But, to give Walker the benefit of the doubt, looks like he was honest to the gov, and hyped the public, better that than to lie to taxpayers.

    Not finished yet, folks. Now the great state of Pennsylvania:

    In the PA Governor race, Mastriano, who has a double-digit lead in the polls, was one of the 1/6 capitol stormers. Not a problem for republicans in PA, apparently.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/05/jan-6-protesters-run-for-office-526545

    ..at least 57 individuals who played a role in that day’s events — either by attending the Save America rally that preceded the riots, gathering at the Capitol steps or breaching the Capitol itself — are now running for elected office.

    At least three candidates this year face charges related to the Jan. 6 riots.


    And the candidate for PA Lt. Governor has been hit with a protective order from his wife over claims of physical and mental abuse, not to mention 'threatening to kill the family dog":

    https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article260853597.html

    Moving on, let's head on over to Ohio

    J.R. Majewski, an Ohio GOP congressional candidate, was a January 6 participant and has repeatedly shared pro-QAnon material

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/politics/kfile-jr-majewski-jan-6-qanon-material/index.html

    In a NE Ohio Congressional race, Candidate Max Miller has been accused by his wife of abuse. Who was his wife? Donald Trump's press secretary, Stephanie Grisham!

    https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/p...tions/95-72f3450e-d3c3-4bab-ac70-ddf49d108ff9

    In a very Trumpian move, Miller filed a defamation lawsuit against Grisham. Way to go, Miller, you're getting the Trump thing down! Sue your victims for peace, eh?

    Doesn't matter to repubs, though. Trump endorsed him, and he's leading.

    And... this just in from Indiana:

    Man accused of killing his cancer-stricken wife wins GOP primary from jail
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/06/indiana-gop-murder-andrew-wilhoite/

    He won while in jail?

    So, if you want to impugn democrats, obviously you don't really care about such things when I can find tons of criminality on the right, and you haven't mentioned it at all.

    so, your concern criticism is vacuous drivel.
     
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    What is more 'anti-God' than abortion? If you are religious and believe the Bible is the word of God, then what does God say about the unborn?

    He says the unborn is property and/or a fetus is not endowed with the sanctity of life, basically, so you sure as hell can't use Christianity as the basis for being anti-abortion.

    • A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).

    • The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).

    • God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

    • Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women
    (2 Kings 8:12).

    • King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword
    (2 Kings 15:16).

    • Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).

    • For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

    • God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

    • For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

    • Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).
     
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    "common knowledge' is not an argument, it's phrase of weasel words.

    Weasel words are vague generalities 'everyone knows' 'people say', etc.

    There is no such thing as 'pre-substantiated'. That's an assumption, and an assumption is not a fact. Assumptions require substantiation

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    Facts are facts. If they do not align with your opinion then so be it.
     
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    You got me. When I first read your post, I thought you were genuinely "wondering". But it appears you alreay have all the answers. I mean YOUR answers.
     
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    You haven't presented any facts.
     
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    Not difficult at all. Personally I don't accept or believe in anything supernatural. So for me god must be natural. The laws of physics, mother nature or something like that fits the bill for me. There is no religion involved at all.

    Religion is about defining morality and how to live life. I support religion even though I don't practice it. It supports morality and that is good for society. Did you follow that?
     
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    As (I think it was) Churchill once said a young person who is not a liberal doesn't have a heart. An older person who is not conservative doesn't have a brain. However, I have been conservative my entire long life, though call myself a Constitutional conservative to distinguish from all the other kinds.
     
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    How can someone move your all powerful "god"?
     
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    You have it backwards.

    You control Americans via god worship.
     
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    Sure I have.
     
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    Not every American is religious. You aren't thinking this one through.
     
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    No, but a disproportionate number of our POLITICIANS and particularly our POLITICALLY ACTIVE CITIZENS seem to be.
     
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    If you look at the twofold definition of religion the first part of it just pertains to a belief in one. You might be thinking of it in regards to rituals. Not every believer is a follower.
     
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    The times still require a politician to confess a belief in God to successfully win an election. America is not ready for an open atheist yet. So, naturally you'll have politicians playing the believer game outwardly.
     
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    They don't
    Where do you get that idea?
     
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    The DNC want only one God for Americans, Government!
     
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    Albeit in a very hypocritical way though!
     
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    DemocratIC and that's what the founders wanted. The were fleeing a country where the religion and the government were essentially one, and that wanted it to stop.
     
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    You're projecting.
     

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