Democrat judge rules against birthers in Alabama suit to keep obama off ballot

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Speeders R Murderers, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Judge says elections are a political dispute not a legal one. So why did the US Supreme Court decide the 2000 election for us?

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/01/09/state/n094456S50.DTL

    Judge dismisses suit to keep Obama off Ala ballot
    By JAY REEVES, Associated Press

    Monday, January 9, 2012
    .A state judge agreed with Democrats on Monday and dismissed a lawsuit aimed at keeping President Barack Obama off the ballot in Alabama this year, joining other jurists who have thrown out cases arguing Obama isn't a natural-born U.S. citizen and can't legally hold the office.

    Circuit Judge Helen Shores Lee, herself a Democrat, sided with a party lawyer who argued that claims about Obama's eligibility to serve are a political dispute, not a legal question, and don't belong in court.

    Plaintiff Albert Hendershot Jr. declined comment after a brief hearing, but he previously said he would appeal to the Republican-controlled Alabama Supreme Court

    snip
     
  2. algranny

    algranny New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    0
    There was another one filed, and another in another country! It is not over yet! There is still a fight brewing
     
  3. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,274
    Likes Received:
    455
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Birthers lose again for the 500th time! lol Orly is a joke in the country.
     
  4. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No big deal.. Just means the judge can read the bloody law.
     
  5. Face

    Face New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    510
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No the joke is the Birther one. Get over it, it is history.
     
  6. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Another Democratic judge acting according to the law.

    News at 11 p.m.
     
  7. algranny

    algranny New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    0
    There is merit in them all. Unless someone could present factual info regarding Obama. So far he isn't forth coming with any evidence that could have settled this many years ago. Currently I would be satisfied with just having him return to chicago in January of 2013
     
  8. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Why don't you just read the law?
     
  9. ModerateG

    ModerateG New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Messages:
    2,054
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's the thing. He's presented all the evidence. And the birthers just yell "fake! lies! deception!"...
     
  10. algranny

    algranny New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What has been presented, a fake BC, the second one of course. Records all sealed, miilions spent covering something, obviously the citizens aren't to know much about the candidate but his word! IMO, it will come to life that we were right! He wasn't eligible, but the door has been opened, just hope Obama supporters won't mind if a conservative representative does the same!
     
  11. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2004
    Messages:
    7,929
    Likes Received:
    100
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The birth certificate wasn't fake, but it wasn't an original magically kept in a dusty drawer in a Hawaii government office somewhere for decades. Hawaii doesn't do that, so the best they could do was take the electronic and ledger information they had and issue a new birth certificate (this is the same reason almost everyone in Hawaii gets a COLB instead). Arguing about the validity of a birth certificate without even bothering to find out the history of how Hawaii issued and issues such birth certificates is the height of ignorance.

    As for the millions spent, it has been wasted having to answer moronic Birther court challenges rather than trying to cover "something". IMO, it will eventually come to light that the Birthers were both wrong and pathetic. Get over your latent racism and turn your brains back on, Birthers!
     
  12. algranny

    algranny New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Racists, idiots, you certainly have some good names to throw in there, but it hasn't stopped those who earnestly want to know! As previously stated, you allowed the door to open, just be willing to shake hands with a conservative doing the same in the future!
     
  13. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,274
    Likes Received:
    455
    Trophy Points:
    83
    LOL birthers.
     
  14. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And once again, the reason makes no sense. The judges either say the plaintiffs have no standing ( which makes no sense since the president affects all citizens) or in this case they say elections are a political not a legal dispute ( which also makes no sense since the Us Supreme Court DECIDED the 2000 election).
     
  15. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yeah - that's what hawaii says but of course they're gonna say that to protect obozo. No one believes them but you. I think the original paper copy does exist. The governor said it does.
     
  16. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One more birther case thrown out of court.

    I think that makes them 0 for 397.
     
  17. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's the only President in history that has shown two verified documents proving that he was born in the US.

    The records aren't "sealed" any more than the records of anybody else. They are protected by laws because, as the birthers have proven time and time again, their are some nutty people out there willing to go to any lengths to make life difficult for certain people.

    As for the millions, that is just another birther myth.
     
  18. Face

    Face New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    510
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is really getting old. Get over it. Obama won last time just like Bush won Florida......
    :bored:
     
  19. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And none of the cases have been decided on merit. The judges always say the plaintiffs have no standing or this issue is not a legal matter. Roth "reasons" are preposterous.
     
  20. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2004
    Messages:
    7,929
    Likes Received:
    100
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So how come algranny doesn't know how Hawaii's system works prior to tossing out allegations of fake birth certificates? If algranny can actually advance some knowledge of the issue (verifiable facts that should be paid attention to) I will change my tone, but until then I feel comfortable in knowing that the Birther lunacy is just that.
     
  21. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The supreme court said in 1875 that a natural born citizen is one where both parents are citizens. hence, Obozo is not an NBC. It's that simple.
     

Share This Page