Congress hurtles toward shutdown

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Democrats have the votes to shut down the government

    The possibility of a government shutdown grew dramatically Thursday as House and Senate GOP leaders struggled to round up the votes to keep the government open past midnight Friday...

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) appears to have a serious problem.

    Senate Democrats said they're confident they have the votes to block the stop-gap spending bill that the House is taking up, according to two Democrat senators and a senior party aide. And top Senate Republicans are openly worried about the situation.

    Democrats are about to shut down the government over a policy dispute -- something they portrayed as a cataclysmic threat to America's stability when Republicans did the same in 2014.

    Related thoughts from John Sexton, who has serious concerns.

    The House Freedom Caucus is now saying they won't vote for the CR on the House side unless all of the FISA Abuse report is made public.

    Democrats, of course, are blocking that, because, "transparency."

    BTW: This report has now been cleared for reading by all Congressmen. As Byron York suggests, this is probably a step towards making it publicly available.

    One way or the other -- now that it's in 535 people's hands, plus their staff members cleared to read it, it's very very leakable.

    It's supposed to be a blockbuster!
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow at least some Democrats have principals. It must be nice.

    I don't have those. I don't understand nor agree about what's happening.
     
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    I think that shutting down the government for illegal aliens is going to look really good for the Democrats running for re-election this year
     
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    Nobody expects them to be on the side of middle class Americans do they?
     
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    good to see dems put illegals first over the Americans putting their lives on the line to protect them. Pretty much sums up how they think.
     
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    RiseAgainst Banned

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    They're falling into Trump's mousetrap very nicely
     
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    Hello - - in case you weren't listening the Republicans have the House, the Senate and the White House and you think the Democrats will be considered the cause of failure? Maybe you can explain how that happens..
     
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    It's literally in the title my dude
     
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    Who gets the blame will be who ever spins it the best. The truth it is both sides are not doing their jobs and finding a compromise.
     
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    You know Republicans control everything in Washington.

    It will be Republicans, not Democrats, that will cause the government to shut down. Own up to it.
     
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    Do we have 60 Republican senators?

    No?

    Then clearly they don't have the Senate.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah.

    Can't wait to see the actual votes.

    Just like with the tax bill, we'll know who to blame.
     
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    Oh yes they are.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Master stroke.

    they're too dumb to envision midterm's scathing PAC ads.

    which write themselves.
     
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    We all still remember this smarmy creepy Republican who shut down the government for no reason other than to grandstand... 23-sad-ted-cruz.w600.h315.2x.jpg
     
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    Well, Democrats are suicide bombers on the government shutdown, suicide bombers are difficult to negotiate with.

    Americans are being blackmailed by Dem amnesty demands

    They’re willing to punish hundreds of millions of citizens for the sake of 800,000 illegals.

    Democrats are blackmailing the American people by threatening to shut down the government over their open-borders demands on immigration.

    Democrat leadership’s priorities are far more focused on providing amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens than on funding the federal government for hundreds of millions of American citizens, including the entitlement programs for people they pretend to care about, but, even if there is a shut down, Trump will make sure those entitlement program payments are made as well as debt service, even if the government goes on a cash accounting basis.

    The Democrat Party wants a government shutdown because so many of the constituent groups of the Democrat Party are indirectly on the federal payroll.

    Trump will ensure food stamps remain funded, though highway payments and union-workers may be harmed by Democrats desire to upset, agitate, disrupt the lives of their own constituent groups for the purpose of scoring political points.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/...or-blackmailing-america-over-amnesty-demands/
     
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    Fine! Great! Let 'er rip! If the Democrats shut this stinking, corrupt, miserable government down for MONTHS nothing would suit me better!

    Throughout my long life, the government has done very little but TAKE money away from me and give me very damned little in return!. So, the Libocrat Party wants to 'stick its finger in Trump's eye' to make some kind of bullshit 'statement' about going all the way over the top to protect ILLEGAL ALIENS, and shut the government down? Well, then... that's just SUPER! Game on! Shut the ROTTEN DAMNED SWAMP DOWN! :roflol:
     
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    They're going to shut down the gov't to protect illegals. Just think about that one-
     
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    Woo! Do it! Shut it down! There's no future, so let's love this destruction while we can.
     
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    By the way, it seems the "800k dreamers in the US line" itself is a lie.

    It's closer to 4 million.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...amers-and-most-may-face-nightmare/1042134001/
     
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    Trump was elected to destroy the American government and America.
    His cult will be rejoicing with their more than ample weaponry...
    They are infinitely worse than ISIS ever dreamed of.
     
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    No kidding.

    It will be ALL on the GOP.

    It is amazing how gullible the consumers of the BS of the RW Fever Swamp Noise Machine are.

    The GOP controls both Houses of Congress and the White House, yet they are buying into the RW BS notion that it will be the "Dem's Fault". :roflol:

    I mean, I know that if Trump's BS Machine tells them that "1+1=3" they gladly proclaim it as gospel, but you would think that they would have some idea of how the government works.

    The FACT is:

    If the GOP wants an extra 10 votes in the Senate, then they will have to do it the Dem's way.

    If the GOP won't compromise (with the Dems) it is ALL on the GOP.

    The Dems Fault? :roflol:

    Where does the RW Fever Swamp BS Machine even get this stuff?

    The Dems Fault? :roflol:
     
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    there's nothing American about communism
     
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    When your party controls what bills get out of committee, you own the Senate. That's how it works. Everything else is just a side-show.
     
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    And there is (also) nothing American about Trumpism.
     
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