No it is not. Every building is using energy to hold itself up right every minute. The larger the building the greater the energy. When that building comes down that energy does not disappear
Let us then define this energy. I say that the only energy available would be that of gravitational attraction. you say there is something more, please define this something more.
I told you already go learn about it. You are wrong and science proves it. No time to send you to science camp.
so, do you actually mean "POTENTIAL ENERGY" is that want you wanted to define? the energy that is available but not yet used because a mass is held up by something, Potential energy is a function of mass and distance from the center of the earth, and can be calculated, however this POTENTIAL ENERGY, is powered by GRAVITY, there is no other source of energy involved. If you can, please add detail as to the nature of this additional energy.
I am sure that the many pages of posters here in your thread have said the same thing as I am going to say. Where is the "confirmed" you speak off? If you want to state your opinion of something, that is fine however confirming you think your opinion is should be left from the title. Did you take any writing classes in college?
I guess I only 'assert' the same thing this firefighter at ground zero on 9/11 asserts here: http://www.dailypaul.com/320668/fdny-9-11-survivor-witness-and-whistleblower-speaks Maybe you should speak with him?
That Rudy Dent is quite the reliable witness, huh? http://m.topix.com/forum/city/smithtown-ny/TSLCC0QIQH2391OST/p313
I expected the same old guardian(s) badmouth a firefighter who served at ground zero so, I thought I'd post 91 more, along with personal comments they left where signing their own petition for a new investigation that were taken from their website here:http://firefightersfor911truth.org/ Two of the 'more infamous' firefighters claim there were explosions in the trade centers revealed through a recent lawsuit whose video testimony is here: http://www.libertariannews.org/2013/07/28/911-firefighters-reveal-bombs-destroyed-wtc-lobby/ Adam James, Kansas City, MO Fire Dept. Local 42 "Liberty will always overcome tyranny! The truth will set us free! The answer to 1984 is 1776!" Alan Hunt, KCMO Fire Dept. Local 42 "If these criminals are allowed to escape prosecution we are finished as a country." Amber L. Blusiewicz, FWFC 0-3 Years "Stop telling the nation what it wants to hear and tell it the cold heart truth. The country has the right to know and the families of the victims deserve to know what really happened to their loved ones." Andrea Laurel, Plantation Fire Department 3-8 Years "If you have killed NYC's Bravest, there will be consequences. Firefighters are not disposable, nor to be used as pasties for political gain. The survivors continue to pay a heavy price, and should be supported in all ways. " Andrew Jensen USMC aircraft firefighter Andrew MacDougal, Essex Fire Dept. Essex, Ny 0-3 Years "We need a new investigation. unusually/inexplicably high temperatures MONTHS after 9/11, high levels of 1,3 diphenylpropane post 9/11, unignited thermate indisputably found in the 9/11 dust, I could go on and on... " Anton Vodvarka New York City Fire Dept. (Retired) 15+ Years Bill Gordon, Lauderhill Fire -Rescue (S. Fla.) 8-15 Years "Only the truth will make a positive future for our children. I've been a 9/11 truther for at least 5 - 6 years." Brent Jolly Poulsbo Fire Department Brian Hayes, retired firefighter "we're in deep trouble if we don't find out what really happened on 9-11" Bryan Hunt, FDNY, retired 8-15 Years "I retired from FDNY in 1998. I knew many of the guys who died in the WTC collapses. May they rest in peace. I've read tons of information re. the deaths of my brothers on 9/11. I've watched the videos, listened to the rantings on both sides. It wasn't until 2006 that I began questioning the "official story" and did my own research. There is bad info on both sides, but I've concluded that the "official story" doesn't add up. It sounds like a whitewash. The 9/11 Commission didn't investigate anything--they just took statements. We need a real, independent investigation, with supeona powers. If the "offical" version is correct, so be it. And if heads are going to roll at any level of the government or military, so be it. Let's do it, and let's not be afraid of the truth. The brothers deserve that much." Chris Kaihatsu, "(Chicago, IL)" Christopher Paddon Lewis and Clark RFPD N/A Clinton Vanhook, "I hope you will accept my signature as I am a former firefighter with 8 years of service. Also see my Myspace www.myspace.com/ff_against_nwo" Colette McLennan, Seattle Engine 17 Lieutenant N/A "We need to look past the obvious and become Leaders vs. Lemmings" Craig Morrell local 3224 Craig Pruitt Garland Fire Department, TX 3-8 Years Dan Fiorito, USFS retired "time to tell the truth about CIA involvement in false flag attacks against the People of the United States of America and fulfill your oath to Protect the Constitution against all Ememies Forign and Domestic." Daniel Allen, Firefighter chicago 15+ Years "Have patience informing others, this is a very sensitive topic, of an even that has happened to us all, be strong as we know we are." Darnell T. Factory Seattle Darrell Valance, North Centerville, New Jersey 8-15 Years "We don't get stronger buildings or solve crimes by destroying evidence and refusing to test for causes...we need the truth now!" David Giles, SVFD, NRFR "...the "official investigation" blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce. --Bill Manning, Fire Engineering" David Short, Willow Creek VFD 15+ Years "I'm a retired career paramedic and fireman with 30 years of experience. I'm also an instructor and ex-chief officer. Even if EVERY other part of the official MYTH of 911 was true, I'd like to see National Geographic answer this one... OK so the towers collapsed due to failure at the site of the crash impacts due to weakening and fire... OK. How then did the collapse of the upper floors of the structure cause the utter disintegration and fracture of all the steel members BELOW the fire which were COLD SOLID MASSIVE STEEL? Heat travels UP doncha know. please drop me an e mail Erik peace d ps my handle is 344thBrother in memory of the MURDERED fallen brothers of that day. " Donald A. Needom, New Orleans Fire Dept. 15+ Years "I agree this by lack of investigation a inside job" Earl Emerson, Ladder 3, Seattle Fire Department, Lieutenant "9/11 may have been the beginning of the end for this country. We need an accounting. " xxxxxxxx, Chief/King County Fire Dist.18 15+ Years "Thanks so much to bring this to light. The more I here of this type of thing the more it seems to be true. GOOD WORK..." Erik Lawyer, 3 Truck in the City of Seattle "See the Mayday...Mayday...Mayday posting for info about me." Frank Dunnington Capt. P23 Kansas City, MO Fire Dept. Gary R. Strand Seattle (retired) Gary T. Bastarache Moncton Local 999 IAFF George Guerci, L.35 "There is more behind this story than the public is being told. I wasn't working that day but went to the site many times afterwards; I know many guys who have respiratory illnesses due to what happened at the WTC on 9/11. L35." Gerald Tucker, Cityof Newport R.I. "Any firefighter who believes the official story is completely ignoring his or her training and experience. These buildings could only collapse in that manor as a result of a controlled demolition." Gordon M. Wiggin III Firefighter/Paramedic Pembroke Pines, FL Greg Bacon, Fire Lit. (Ret) "The silent voices of all 9/11 firefighters murdered on that day demand justice from those still alive. Would you ignore a cry from a fellow firefighter for help in a burning building?" Greg Mejlaender N/A Greg R Hipenbecker, Retired-Wauwatosa Wi pump operator "I believe the official story of the 911 collapses defy the laws of science and nature!" Jack Heginbotham, RN Emergency Room "We need to make this an issue this November. Engineers, Architects and Firefighters know what they are talking about and command the respect of the general population. " James A. Guenther James Mikecz, milwaukee fire dept 15+ Years "Take the red pill, investigate wtc 7, watch "the creature from jekyll island" & norman dodd on tax exempt foundations(both by g. edward griffin), aaron russo: reflections and warnings (all on youtube) and wake up to see who is really running this country! GOD BLESS OUR FALLEN BROTHERS AND THE VICTIMS OF 911!" Jeremy Ingham, Los Angeles Fire Department 8-15 Years "Let's stop hiding behind this phony 'patriotism', and open our eyes. The truth is out there!" Jeremy Romig Portland, OR Local 43 3-8 Years xxxxxxxx Seattle F.D. Jim Lundberg, "I saw the dust and smelled the sulfur. There is no way that was a natural collapse." Jim Osorio, LFD Rescue 1 - Acting Rescue 5 FDNY N/A "I responded to this horrific incident with my fellow firefighters, and will always remember this and will never forget my brother and sister firefighters who responded and paid the ultimate sacrifice." Jim Stark Great Barrington, Mass. 15+ Years Jimmy Watts SFD L12 8-15 Years Joe Allegra, Crash Fire Rescue, MCAS Miramar, San Diego CA. "We need to know the truth" John Guthrie N/A John Keenan FDNY retired N/A John Tyler Birch, Gat City Vol. Fire Dept, gate city VA. FF#345 "I joined the U.S. Navy just before Sept. 11 happened, I served on board the USS. Eneterprise Cvn-65, I am now a member of my towns VOl. Fire Dept. I would love to see who ever was responsible for this pay the consiqences. Isnt this why we went to war Isnt this what thousands of my Armed services brothers and sister gave there lives for to catch the bastards responsible." Jon Gillis Seattle Battalion Chief N/A Joseph O'Malley, Seattle Fire Dept. Engine 9 "I'm underwhelmed by the government's complete lack of response to Firefighters' concerns. Please reconsider your position." Julie Santucci Wildland firefighter 0-3 Years Ken Radliff, Captain, Santa Clara County Fire, Ca 15+ Years "The lack of investigations, the perfect collapses, etc... it's a dead give away. I watched these buildings drop on TV that morning and minute one knew something was fishy. I'm surprised so many still don't believe it was an inside job." Kenny Makowichuk Seattle Fire 8-15 Years Kevin Miller Lewis and Clark RFPD N/A xxxxxxxx FDNY ret. Lt. 15+ Years Laila Selk, retired, 1996, Palo Alto FD, CA "Keep on talking about 9/11. " Lance Fisher, SFD "Anyone can gather enough info for themselves to determine that the NIST report is deeply flawed. Anyone who watched the news on 9-11 heard the sounds of explosions. You can pull up video of this on YouTube for the love of God. Yet they didn't even test for explosive residue? This petition simply calls for a more thorough investigation. Sign it!" Lawrence Stice, CMFD 15+ Years "Keep Hammering the Government Screws.....The Truth MUST be EXPOSED !" Leisyka Parrott BLM, Surprise Fire Station, Cedarville, CA Lt. Frank Rand, Cicero,IL 15+ Years "We have earned the right to know the TRUTH!" Mark Gray, Battalion Chief Hurst Fire Department, Fort Worth, TX N/A "20 year member of the John Birch Society" Mark Mellein Seattle Fire 0-3 Years xxxxxxxx papineua fire protection dist 0-3 Years Michael James Sulak Seattle Fire Department 8-15 Years Michael Melson milton, GA fire-rescue Mike Butler, city of milton,ga. 15+ Years "Our government is a sorry crock. To think we elect you people. Time to overthrow our leaders it seems to me." Mike Phenow, Osseo Fire Department, MN 3-8 Years "Keep fighting the good fight. "Truth is treason in the empire of lies." --Ron Paul" Nick Ponce Seattle, WA N/A Pamela Blair, Vershire Volunteer Fire Department, Vershire, Vermont 3-8 Years "As a former volunteer firefighter, I believe that we cannot legally and morally ignore the overwhelming testimony about and evidence of exotic accelerants at the WTC." Paul Kyle, Lt. SJFD Local 771 15+ Years "it's a sorry state of affairs when somebody feels they have to protect terrorists rather than the memories and the families of the brave 343 who gave their lives in the Line of Duty. " Preston Bhang Seattle, WA - Captain N/A Ray Kielhamer, 12 Engine, Redwood City, Caray "Never again" Raymond S. Simon Seattle Fire Department Regina, sfd 15+ Years "I totally support an investigation...we havent heard the truth. Why?" Robert Blameuser, Skokie, IL "I am signing in memory of my late brother and great friend firefighter Eddy Blameuser " Robert E Palmer, Retired Capt K C F D "I can can land a 172 at 65knts" Scott Troogstad Chicago N/A Shawn Valance, Holmdel Fire and Rescue, New Jersey 3-8 Years "The truth can only make us stronger...not weaker." Spencer Nelson Seattle N/A Stephen Badhwar, Atlin Volunteer Fire Department, British Columbia, Canada "Never before in history has a steel-framed scyscraper "collapsed" due to fire and/or structural damage. On September 11, 2001 three such buildings disintegrated at free-fall speed. Something is definitely wrong with this picture. " Steve Morse, MTFR 8-15 Years "We need a new investigation!!!!!" Steve Mott, Edwards AFB 3-8 Years "I was on stand-by as remote controlled large frame aircraft were crash landed at Edwards AFB." Steve White Novato Fire District, Novato Ca. Marin Local 1775 15+ Years Theresa Paccagnan Seattle Fire Dept. 15+ Years Tim Romanski Erie Fire Dept., Erie, PA 3-8 Years Timothy Finnegan, Retired from Weehawken, N.J. "Two good sources for information are the film the reflecting pool and Webster Tarpley's book Synthetic terror.One tells the story the other trys to fill in the blanks." xxxxxxxx, San Francisco Fire Dept. 3-8 Years "Keep up the good work! I hope to attend the 5/8/2010 event in San Leandro CA" Tom Wheland, Helena F.D. 15+ Years "The given explanations of this tragic day anger me beyond belief, do they think we don't know any better?!" Williton Parker, seattle fire 15+ Years "Bring out the truth."
I'm sorry, how many of these Firefighters are in the NYFD? And on another note....most of these comments are based on personal incredulity, not evidence.
I see. So you dismiss them away as well too huh? I'll post many more if you need to see them. You guys could badmouth any form of opposition for a new investigation no matter where it came from, I guess. Sad really.
Why are you trying to bury the words of Rudy Dent with all the spam? He's your star truther firefighter, right?
I welcome a new investigation, but I know when the results don't validate the Twoofers, they will just claims it was yet another conspiracy...Cause that's how you work.
how about a real investigation that explains how it is that the top 15% of a skyscraper can collapse down upon the remaining 85% and cause complete "collapse" of the whole thing? how about an investigation that can explain why the video of the alleged "FLT175" shows an airliner under ~28 g stress and it keeps its shape while it disappears inside the tower? how about an investigation that can prove the alleged crash of "FLT77"? .... or for that matter "FLT93" where is it?
Nah, I don't think you do (otherwise you wouldn't be so dead set against the whole thing to begin with). Introduce it to the public (on one of the lamestream channels other than Fox), expose the evidence you so easily dismiss, and the testimony of the witnesses who were there (which can't include our goofball leader at the time, George Bush cause he wouldn't swear under oath and had to have Dickey Cheney with him at all times), and let the public decide. Anything short of full disclosure would be a farce (just like it was the first time). - - - Updated - - - It remains buried.
total speculation on your part, its a crap shoot, there are problems all around on both the "truther" & "debunker" sides, the outcome of any new investigation must be presented in such a manner that it invokes trust by the masses, no matter what the conclusion is, if the majority of humans who see it, do not trust it, then it was a waste. Real Truth shouldn't have to be "sold" to the public, but on the other hand, you have to be careful how things are presented. If nothing else, the official NIST "reports" and the 9/11 commission report, do NOT invoke trust on the part of people who actually take time to read them. Bits like in the NIST report on WTC7, that allege to KNOW that explosives could not possibly have been used because explosives would make a very loud noise and it would be heard all over, and so its ruled out from the start. .... right, like a very loud explosive event is the ONLY way to have WTC7 destroyed, how about a few dozen much smaller explosions, to accomplish the same thing as one very large explosion.
A real investigation has the authority to summon witnesses. ( note Congress, summoned Richard Cheney and also on a separate occasion, Karl Rove, neither of these criminals has seen fit to respect the law and show up, lets see "JoeNobody" try that stunt ) Is the system that sick & twisted that two high profile fugitives from justice can travel freely in this country without fear of arrest? In AMERICA, the law must apple evenly to ALL ( and as we all know, ...... if the President does it ..... its not illegal ) what is going on around here?
the court system, that by the way is staffed by employees of us taxpayers has the authority to summon witnesses, fine, now all we have to do is convince our employees that they need to do the right thing.
